Julian G

Join Date 08/2005

Back with more questions

Hello there. I return.

..with more questions of course..

1) Will it be detrimental to my monitor if I constantly switch it on and off? The duration can be as short as a few minutes to as long as an entire day.

2) Using SiSoft Sandra, these are what my temperature sensors indicate:

Board temperature: 64.5C / 148.1F

CPU temperature: 44.5C / 112.1F

Power/Aux temperature: 42.0C / 107.6F

It is clear that my motherboard temperature is too high (there's an exclamation mark next to it) so what can I do about it? I don't know how to install a fan ON a motherboard, just those that blow out behind the CPU.

3) Is it OK to just open the side cover of my CPU and have a fan directly blow it? Will it be detrimental to the CPU health as well (dust particles and stuff)?

Thanks again.

Oh yeah... on a side note, my motherboard is a MSI 82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller board. I've been trying to find an update driver on the net, but no luck even on the official site. It's not been updated since it was installed nearly 2 years ago. If you happen to know of a site which contains the driver update, please let me know

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Yarlen

Join Date 01/2005

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1) Personally, I turn mine off when my PC is off, but others just leave their computers and monitors on all the time. I've heard that switching a monitor on and off a lot will wear it down faster.

2) Your board temperature is definitely too high, but don't take off the side panel of your case. Cases are designed to flow cool air in from the front and hot air out through the back. Removing the side panel breaks that flow and only makes things worse. I'd suggest opening it up and making sure that your intake (fan in the front) and exhaust (one in the back) are working. You should also get some compressed air and clean out any dust or other gunk that's built in inside your case. Lastly, see if you can tidy up any cables on the inside of your case that may be restricting airflow (hard drive cables, power cables, etc.).

3) See above.

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Is it ok to use a handheld (lower powered) vacumn cleaner instead of compressed air?

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Hi,

Your CPU temperature is fine but as you say the MB temperature is too high. First thing i would check is that Sisoft is reporting your MB correctly? Sometimes the program can get confused and give erroneous readings. Try downloading and installing Motherboard monitor as well, maybe that will give you a more accurate reading.

I wouldn't worry about turning your monitor on and off. They're designed for constant use in office environments and as such i don't think the use you're describing will hurt.

I wouldn't use anything not specifically designed for cleaning PC's to clean your PC. I would be worried about a build up of static on a normal handheld hoover! Try taking it outside and gently blowing the dust out of the PC. It always worked for me.
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2 by Julian G
Monday, October 10, 2005

Is it ok to use a handheld (lower powered) vacumn cleaner instead of compressed air?

not a good idea, canned compressed air is inexpensive and you will be able to get more than a couple cleanings from it.

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Corky_O

Join Date 04/2004

Board temperature: 64.5C / 148.1F

CPU temperature: 44.5C / 112.1F

What does the BIOS say?

There should be a category (hardware monitor, or similar) in your BIOS pages.

Definitely sounds like you have an air flow issue across the board (reference suggestions by Yarlen), or something connected to your board that is generating too much heat (i.e., Video card with failing or no fan, PCI card with inadequate heat dissipation components).

Another possibility is that your drives are generating too much heat for the case cooling system.

Agree 100% with Moderateman, do not use vacuum cleaner - compressed air only.

If you are comfortable disconnecting hardware, cables and connectors from the board, you might want to disassemble all components from the board (make sure to use prolonged contact with the PSU housing before touching memory, etc.), and then blow out all pin connectors, fans, and do a general cleaning of both the components while out of the case - as well as the motherboard and inside of the case.

Reconnect components while paying attention to the way air flow is designed in the case, so you can accomodate the air flow design while routing the wires.

For the chipset drivers, you might go right to "intel.com" if you have not already, and check for the appropriate "infinst" file to update the 865 chipset to the latest and greatest.

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is that Sisoft is reporting your MB correctly

It should be correct, since the CPU temperature reported tallies with the one in BIOS (I couldn't find MB temperature in BIOS and therefore cannot make any comparison/confirmation)

I would be worried about a build up of static on a normal handheld hoover!

I never thought of that, thanks for the tip. I know what static can do to the hardware.. bad experience.

What does the BIOS say?

The readings tally with the ones in the BIOS.

865 chipset

Um.. how do you know my MB is a 865 chipset? It doesn't say so anywhere. I'm really afraid of using the wrong driver and screwing my system up. Would you mind pointing me to the exact link?

I asked my friend about the cooling system, and he suggested I get a thermal take. Any comments on that?

disconnecting hardware, cables and connectors from the board

I opened the side cover of my CPU, and I saw... dust. I swear it is at least one inch thick, especially on my HDDs. EVERYWHERE. I feel like dipping the whole thing in soap water

I think I see the problem now.

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Yarlen

Join Date 01/2005

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Yeah, dust is not your friend. When I built my last PC, I bought filters for my fans that have kept it largely dust free. Definitely worth the few cents it cost.

As for your motherboard, Corky knew because you told us what your motherboard is: MSI 82865G/PE/P.

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Done it. Took me a while to figure out the correct file to download but so far, no problems after the update. Thanks again guys.

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