get a hummer yrag, they are awesome. good enough for our fighting forces.

I know I am losing. No harm in loving American made products though.

U.S.A. makes some awesome cars that will compete with foreign cars

Prowler
Viper
Mustang (The new one is in the same class as the Ferrari)
Corvette
and of course the Cadillac (take your pick)

......and it may not compete, but I love my CAMARO
Those so-called-badass fast and the furious cars would need nitrous to compete with my Camaro.
Without nitrous, is like Turtles to Rabbits
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#52 by PowerUser joetheblow - 12/26/2003 7:21:18 PM yrag, Dodge is owned by DiamerChrysler.So its American and its German! The best of both worlds!!!

...yes I'm aware of that. I envy you if your imagination allows you to get behind the wheel of a Dodge and think you're in a Benz...

American muscle is the way to go for speed. An owner doesn’t have to worry about taking out the interior of the car or weight reduction unless they are into extremely serious drag racing where the time it takes to blink an eye defines a win or a loss. Parts are cheaper to build on top of what power is already in large American engines. Unlike imports, muscle cars can have stock gears and run low times on the drag strip and have high top end speeds. Imports have to go one way or the other because or the way gearing and torque is set up. A popular thing to do to imports is to put nitrous oxide on them. This is a relatively cheap bolt on that can add 150 horsepower to a car. Small import engines are great to run nitrous on, and turn into quick running engines when nitrous is added. The only catch is that domestic cars can run nitrous too, thus beating the import once again. The story is pretty much the same for new high performance cars. A Lamborghini Diablo is a $250,000 car that must be imported and has to be taken to a shop with a special mechanic. Such shops are rare. Meanwhile a Dodge Viper costs a much lower $80,000. It is slightly faster than the Diablo when both cars are stock. For the price difference, a Viper can be modified to do anything better than the Lambo. A Lambo has few modifications left to be done though. The factory pushes this car to its limits from the factory, which makes it unreliable on top of all else. Once again the American car wins as a performance car over the import.

Imports are the new “fad”. Kids usually don’t want to buy old cars; they want the newest thing out. They don’t realize that if they are looking for performance, American cars are the way to go. Too much money is wasted just trying to get an import to run even with a small American V8. Nitrous, turbochargers, superchargers and blowers are all ways to add much more horsepower to engines. The catch is that these modifications can be done just as easily to already strong running American cars as they can to imports. Some think imported cars are fast because they are so small and lightweight, this just isn’t the case because of the torque problems discussed earlier. Big blocks and power deal with weight issues with ease. New technology is another excuse people use for racing imports rather than domestics. It obviously makes sense that new cars have better technology than cars designed forty and fifty years ago had. The new technology is usually focused on making cars more reliable and economical though, not more high performance. Nothing beats raw power when it comes to speed. Another notable difference in exotic imports and domestic sports cars is that foreign cars are built for high speeds. American cars are made for acceleration speeds and therefore top end is usually sacrificed. That is the American way, hard accelerations off the line that can shatter the weak parts used to build imports.

There isn't a current American car that can do all of that as well as the better imports

The Saleen LM is pretty good and the Mosler certainly has the complete package including straight line 'handling'.

If you want to 'go' in a straight line...take a train....follow the rails.

I outran a DB6 Aston Martin in my old Spitty simply because it was more nimble and actually made it round corners while the Aston was fretting spokes from its wheels...300 horses versus 80.....horses for courses...

#16 by Kona0197 - 12/26/2003 3:19:52 PM what part of forign cars suck do you not understand?

I'm South African, so American cars are foreign to me, and yes Kona, you're so right.

I only ever had two American cars, a Ford XR3i and a Pontiac GrandAM. Both were mistakes that I will never repeat again!

Right now I drive a Hyundai Elantra. Great little car. Takes a lot of abuse. I'm thinking about trading it for a BMW though.... Preferably a 333i if I can find one.

I have always had a fascination with the BMW M5

BTW if I remember there is a dodge viper that packs 700 horsepower and out does the Calloway corvette.

Can't remember what they called it.

The Prowler isn't bad either

Boxxi your right I should have said:

The only good well made real cars are made by Ford, GM, and Dodge. Anything else IS a waste of material and the designers talent.