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grayhaze

Join Date 07/2001

Donations

Upon release of my metalX2 and dinksDX skins, I decided to try a little experiment to see just how willing the general user would be to voluntarily pay a small amount of money in appreciation of the work that went into the skin, and to support future development.

Despite clocking up over 25,000 downloads so far on those skins, I haven't received a single donation. I can't say I'm too surprised because I never believed for one moment that I'd make any real money out of it, but I never for one moment thought that I wouldn't make a single penny!

I'm not telling you this because I'm upset about the lack of donations, or to make anyone feel guilty. I'm telling fellow skinners in case they consider doing a similar thing with their own skins in the future. It's just not worth the effort to set it up.

I find it remarkable that when a discussion about commercial skins comes up you get a multitude of comments about how someone just bought the skin to show their appreciation of the artist's work, even if they didn't particularly like the skin. You also get the people bemoaning the fact that someone dares to request money before they are able to use a skin. Surely the concept of voluntary donations should satisfy both of those crowds, and should at least meet with a limited amount of success?

I'm therefore considering never releasing a free skin again. I may get a lot of people complaining about having to pay for a skin, but at the same time I can at least be relatively confident that I'll get one or two buyers at the same time.

Although I enjoy skinning, I'm perfectly willing to be honest and admit that a lot of what I do is for public recognition, and in the hopes that it may lead on to bigger and better things. As an unemployed graphic designer (something which is becoming increasingly common in this country), I would like to think that someone out there will someday download one of my skins and think it's good enough to offer me some work.

I do create skins for myself, but in all honesty if I only did it for myself I wouldn't spend the amount of time I do on an individual skin. I wouldn't mind the occasional glitch here and there, just so long as it serves its purpose and gives me pleasure. I spend the extra time on my skins for both the reasons mentioned above, and because I want to give the users of my skins the best they could possibly hope for. I listen to comments and try to mold the skin into something the users want, even if that conflicts with my own tastes or needs.

Anyway, after the next update to dinksDX and metalX2, you'll be unlikely to see much in the way of free skins coming from my computer. I'd be interested to know if there are others out there who feel the way I do.

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I understand what you're saying about the ratio of comments to downloads, but the fact remains that whenever a thread pops up about buying skins there are a large number of people who claim to do so to help out the author and support their work. The truth seems to be that people will only pay for a skin if they are forced to do so, regardless of how much they value that skin or the work that went into it.

Also the people who hang out on the board or not the general population of those who download skins.

While looking at the ratio of downloads to comments is a good idea beacuse it is more open to the general population, the message board here is mostly people who know each other or some other select valiable.

For examlpe, I would buy a suite just to support a artist. I would also donate to support a artist (like essorant, Chad Ross and so on) if I had the money to do so.

I would also say that some of those i mentioned have almost 200 skins out, have contributed on a pretty consitant basis for a while, and have been featured artist numurous times so they are also better known.

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#13 by White_Moth - 7/15/2003 8:55:14 AM My point is a simple one:Keep doing what you do best, and the best will come back to you when you need it most.

Another comment if you will...

I too am making skins that take allot of time and effort. I am a graphic artist with computer scripting skills with a background in Architecture and technology (funny though I can't seem to find a job with all this background knowledge) and I know how much time and money it costs per hour to do such things when I could be doing something else.

Firstly, doing these skins help sharpen my graphic skills and keep them on top. I also am adding another ability that I otherwise would not have. Later on that added ability could prove to be the reason I get hired/keep a position over others.

I would also say of giving of your hard time is not worthless when your getting something in return. Comments, advise, practise, and possibly notority.

I do it for those reasons above, AND others like helping others, pushing for education of others as well as myself. Some of my skins will have information on things I find of interest and might help someone else.

I to will be conducting an experiement but with more details and for a longer period of time. Details like people knowing me and what I do, being a skinner who has allot of info on his site and skins that could be helpful, and other stuff. I am also making the process as part of my Thesis for study so even then I still get something out of it (and even that Thesis I will share with others)

I already set up a CafePress site selling minor stuff (and even that has it limitations in the experiment/study)

Here:
http://www.cafeshops.com/joetheblow

Sucks huh??

Hers more:
http://www.joetheblow.com
http://joetheblow.modblog.com

And with all of this I will also get a better understanding of economics, human nature, better understanding of marketing (a graphic designers arch foe) and getting info obout what you do out there.

AND I feel that I might actually be helping some one out of which is the best part of all of this!!!

PS

I would also state that an experiement like this would take months to conduct and need more control.

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