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Issue With Saved Groups

Regrouping, Multiple Browser Profiles, Word Docs

August 1, 2019 12:20:47 PM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

When I save groups, ESPECIALLY browsers, most do not regroup when I open them.
I run 3 Vivaldi browser profile accounts and it opens 1 as the correct user and then opens 2 separate ones as fresh new windows.

But it also doesn't group many of the other ones, opening them all separate, even worse are Microsoft word documents.

I regularly run 6-10 tabs for each group, on 3 browsers and there has to be a better way.
I am starting to look into using QuickAccessPopup to try to open applications/files if there is not a tweak to this in Groupy

I recently just built this desktop, so there are little extra changes that would interfere.

  1.  I made sure to have the setting "Continue running background apps when Vivaldi is closed" enabled as that was one issue, I know Adobe PDFs have issues (not concerned there)
  2. Turned off "open new blank document in Word/Excel rather than recent documents"
  3. I do not have "only group windows of the same application or type with each other" checked

Any help to get at least most of them to open grouped or if there is a better saved group function app out there that works, an api fix w/e

I would still use Groupy because the Tab feature is invaluable!

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Reply #1 August 1, 2019 12:27:46 PM
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Hello,

I have forwarded your report to the Stardock support team for their review and recommendations.

Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates.

We really do appreciate your feedback, thanks.

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Reply #2 August 2, 2019 9:06:53 AM
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Hello,

Sorry to hear you are having trouble.

Many browsers have know issues for opening in a saved group - Chrome and Firefox are such browsers.  As Vivaldi is chromium based, it would also suffer the same as Chrome.

It is not enough to have that setting, you need to ensure that every instance of Vivaldi is closed in task manager - only then will it open properly in a saved group.

For Word and Excel, I am not seeing any issues with Office365 apps:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2019-08-02_09-05-43.mp4

Sean Drohan
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Reply #3 August 5, 2019 1:53:44 PM
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Thanks, I have closed Vivaldi Browsers before saving my session to Groupy and most of the programs now group together correctly, several do not, like fontcreater12.0, scrapple, Scrivener, ShareX, and a couple of others....or they group with just 1 other program and not the majority. In general, it seems they do go back onto the correct monitor now. 

Not sure which programs now have this but if the program has a popup, like continue evaluation or something, does that prevent grouping. (only 2 would fall under this but was curious).

Also, would there be a way to add a saved group as a startup program to have all the programs/specific documents open when I start my computer?

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Reply #4 August 5, 2019 1:56:29 PM
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Quoting assiduous3,
reply 3

Also, would there be a way to add a saved group as a startup program to have all the programs/specific documents open when I start my computer?

You could write a batch file to open a saved group and add it to 'Startup'

Saved groups are stored in:

\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Saved Groups

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Reply #5 August 5, 2019 2:08:54 PM
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I didn't even think about that, thank you! I have the saved group folder currently as a shortcut, so this would save several steps. Eventually would look to have the newest 3 groups replace the old ones for startup but I dont have that capacity.

 

 

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Reply #6 August 22, 2019 12:32:35 PM
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Hi, the batch file has worked to open them but I still run into issues with initially grouping Todoist, linkman Pro, Tabbles, pushbullet, excel, NVIDA control panel, Powerpoint to their respective tab group. 

 

It groups PDF creator, maintype, font creator, speedcrunch, filezilla together...but separates the word docs/excel/powerpoint/windows features/reddplanet together into a 2nd group on that monitor

 

Doesn't Open:  2nd document of Scrivener(which may be like how browsers have issues), but doesn't open Notezilla or ShareX, which only get sent to the taskbar. 

I have tested this w/o the batch file, in 3 separate groups (1 for each monitor), without including my browsers, and still same result.

*also, is there a way to see if a program is ungrouped on any or a specific monitor? 

Or that some programs do not group at all? F1000 is one such example but there are a ton of programs/screens that dont show the ability to?

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Reply #7 September 20, 2019 6:17:46 AM
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I use PDF Xchange editor for pdf and saved group doesn't work for this pdf editor. It never opens my save pdf group.

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Reply #8 September 20, 2019 6:26:54 AM
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Quoting jakkaas,
reply 7

I use PDF Xchange editor for pdf and saved group doesn't work for this pdf editor. It never opens my save pdf group.

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Could you post the saved group here. You can open it using notepad

Saved groups are stored in:

\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Saved Groups

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Reply #9 September 21, 2019 12:24:45 AM
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ka-7PzhZYYLYQtUNitWD0EeiDL1eSqyY

 

Please find the file in the attached link

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Reply #10 September 21, 2019 12:53:33 AM
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Thank you. I have forwarded your questions/problems to the Stardock Support team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate you feedback and patience.

Note : Its the weekend, respond will be slow, probably until Monday morning, when they come back.

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Reply #11 September 21, 2019 3:45:21 AM
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I encountered the same prxoblem applinked download

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Reply #12 September 21, 2019 3:54:23 AM
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Quoting melo08,
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I encountered the same problem

With what applications?

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Reply #13 September 22, 2019 1:59:38 PM
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These 3 saved groups have fewer items grouped than normal but in general the ones that don't group together are 

 

  1. Pushbullet
  2. Excel
  3. Amazon Music
  4. Todoist

Anything that goes to the taskbar like ShareX or the current one I use Notezilla Notes Browser, does not open up in a tabbed file but "opens" to the taskbar. 

 

I have found the work around for opening multiple Word, Scrivener, Excel, or Powerpoint documents (not all used in this file) by opening them with separate groups (aka 1 on monitor1, 2nd on 2, 3rd on 3)  but often they don't group with the main ones.

The browsers were still an issue but not have tested having them in a group file in awhile using the same method (as I have 3 separate Vivaldi accounts use, 1 for each monitor) 

Batchfiles worked to an extent but had similar problems. 

**the 3 text files of the last ones uses are below separate 

[GroupyEntry1]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat DC\Acrobat\Acrobat.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat DC\Acrobat

Target=C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat DC\Acrobat\Acrobat.exe

MatchingClass=AcrobatSDIWindow

[GroupyEntry2]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\root\Office16\EXCEL.EXE

RunElevated=0

Target="C:\Users\kuhns\OneDrive-JKuhns1986\OneDrive\Desktop\Resumes\Resume==MasterWords.xlsx"

NoPatternMatching=1

MatchingClass=XLMAIN

[GroupyEntry3]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files (x86)\MacKichan\SWP\swp.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files (x86)\MacKichan\SWP

Target=C:\Program Files (x86)\MacKichan\SWP\swp.exe

MatchingClass=MozillaUIWindowClass

[GroupyEntry4]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\root\Office16\WINWORD.EXE

RunElevated=0

Target="https://d.docs.live.net/e7d2e8e93449a905/^F Master Documents/Extensions[[NET]].docx"

NoPatternMatching=1

OneDriveFile=1

MatchingClass=OpusApp

[GroupyEntry5]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files (x86)\Scrivener\Scrivener.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=""C:\Users\kuhns\OneDrive-JKuhns1986\OneDrive\~ Master Documents\Scriv-DOC=Master2019-09-13.scriv\Scriv-DOC=Master2019-09-13.scrivx""

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files (x86)\Scrivener

Target=C:\Program Files (x86)\Scrivener\Scrivener.exe

MatchingClass=QWidget

[GroupyEntry6]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files (x86)\Zotero\zotero.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files (x86)\Zotero

Target=C:\Program Files (x86)\Zotero\zotero.exe

MatchingClass=MozillaWindowClass

[Group]

GroupCount=6

GroupLeft=-1571

GroupTop=-11

GroupRight=-41

GroupBottom=989

 

GroupMax=1







[GroupyEntry1]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files\GPSoftware\Directory Opus\dopus.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine="NOAUTOLISTER STARTUP"

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files\GPSoftware\Directory Opus

Target=C:\Program Files\GPSoftware\Directory Opus\dopus.exe

MatchingClass=dopus.lister

[GroupyEntry2]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files (x86)\Scrivener\Scrivener.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=""C:\Users\kuhns\OneDrive-JKuhns1986\OneDrive\~ Master Documents\Scriv-DOC=Master2019-09-13.scriv\Scriv-DOC=Master2019-09-13.scrivx""

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files (x86)\Scrivener

Target=C:\Program Files (x86)\Scrivener\Scrivener.exe

MatchingClass=QWidget

[GroupyEntry3]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\root\Office16\WINWORD.EXE

RunElevated=0

Target="https://d.docs.live.net/e7d2e8e93449a905/^F Master Documents/Job-Resume^M/2019-09-16-Interview!!Questions^MAnswered.docx"

NoPatternMatching=1

OneDriveFile=1

MatchingClass=OpusApp

[GroupyEntry4]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files (x86)\Yellow Blue Soft\Tabbles\tagger.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine="nosplash"

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files (x86)\Yellow Blue Soft\Tabbles

Target=C:\Program Files (x86)\Yellow Blue Soft\Tabbles\tagger.exe

MatchingClass=HwndWrapper[tagger.exe;;bd316535-0c10-4f81-ab9e-2ebc6eb4a665]

[GroupyEntry5]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files (x86)\Citavi 6\bin\Citavi.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files (x86)\Citavi 6\bin

Target=C:\Program Files (x86)\Citavi 6\bin\Citavi.exe

MatchingClass=WindowsForms10.Window.8.app.0.213697a_r6_ad1

[GroupyEntry6]

StoreApp=1

OwnerProcess=1424566A.147190DF3DE79_5byw4zywtsh80!App

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=1

Target=1424566A.147190DF3DE79_5byw4zywtsh80!App

MatchingClass=ApplicationFrameWindow

[Group]

GroupCount=6

GroupLeft=155

GroupTop=249

GroupRight=1697

GroupBottom=1113

 

GroupMax=1

 

 

 

 

[GroupyEntry1]

StoreApp=1

OwnerProcess=88449BC3.TodoistTo-DoListTaskManager_71ef4824z52ta!App

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=1

Target=88449BC3.TodoistTo-DoListTaskManager_71ef4824z52ta!App

MatchingClass=ApplicationFrameWindow

[GroupyEntry2]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\root\Office16\EXCEL.EXE

RunElevated=0

Target="https://d.docs.live.net/e7d2e8e93449a905/^F Master Documents/Job-Resume^M/JobSearch-UPDATED.xlsx"

NoPatternMatching=1

OneDriveFile=1

MatchingClass=XLMAIN

[GroupyEntry3]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files (x86)\Milenix\MyInfo 6\MyInfo.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files (x86)\Milenix\MyInfo 6

Target=C:\Program Files (x86)\Milenix\MyInfo 6\MyInfo.exe

MatchingClass=MyInfoMain4

[GroupyEntry4]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CC 2019\Bridge.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CC 2019

Target=C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CC 2019\Bridge.exe

MatchingClass=Bridge_WindowClass

[GroupyEntry5]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\root\Office16\POWERPNT.EXE

RunElevated=0

Target="https://d.docs.live.net/e7d2e8e93449a905/^F Master Documents/Extensions==Picture Album (1).pptx"

NoPatternMatching=1

OneDriveFile=1

MatchingClass=PPTFrameClass

[GroupyEntry6]

OwnerProcess=C:\Users\kuhns\AppData\Local\Pushbullet\bin\pushbullet_client.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine="-show false"

WorkingDirectory=C:\Users\kuhns\AppData\Local\Pushbullet\bin

Target=C:\Users\kuhns\AppData\Local\Pushbullet\bin\pushbullet_client.exe

MatchingClass=HwndWrapper[pushbullet_client.exe;;19a998b7-6e3e-4434-ba44-8871f283b233]

[GroupyEntry7]

OwnerProcess=C:\Users\kuhns\AppData\Local\Programs\nimbus-electron\Nimbus Note.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Users\kuhns\AppData\Local\Programs\nimbus-electron

Target=C:\Users\kuhns\AppData\Local\Programs\nimbus-electron\Nimbus Note.exe

MatchingClass=Chrome_WidgetWin_0

[GroupyEntry8]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\root\Office16\WINWORD.EXE

RunElevated=0

Target="https://d.docs.live.net/e7d2e8e93449a905/^F Master Documents/- Internet== Shortcut===WallPoster.docx"

NoPatternMatching=1

OneDriveFile=1

MatchingClass=OpusApp

[GroupyEntry9]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files\JabRef\JabRef.exe

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files\JabRef

Target=C:\Program Files\JabRef\JabRef.exe

MatchingClass=SunAwtFrame

[Group]

GroupCount=9

GroupLeft=1905

GroupTop=-8

GroupRight=3435

GroupBottom=1025

GroupMax=1

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