Ok sounds good guys, Ill check out those proggys, get them up and running see where I need to be from there, I remember paying alot of money for Photoshop and I loaded it and it looked like a blank screen with alot of tools on the taskbars then I closed it and havent touched it since..
I had a little trouble understand what some of you guys were talking about "so you can do a really sweet alpha blended .png file and then make an icon from it, preserving the transparency". this is a total different language to me.. IM trying to learn though..

im trying to get some research on it.
Happy new year everyone