APOGEE ICON SUITE » Forum Post by LIBBY

Corky_O

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LIBBY,

You need the new version 3.1 to support the sub-packages.

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thanks corky, thats what i was thinking.

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If you've already purchased v 3.0, doesn't 3.1 come as an upgrade?

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dave86 : Go here https://www.stardock.com/support.asp and fill in the e-mail adress You purchased IP with. You will get a download link and serial containing the newest version.

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I just purchased this beautiful suite. Loaded it up..., give it a sec, give it a sec.... WTF? Hideous jagged edges!

Ugh. I'm used to it though. See, I like my icons big. That's why I bother with these proggies. I use Iconpackager to change the normal 48 pixel icon view to 72 pixels. So, when I get jagged edges, that usually means that the icon doesn't have a 72 pixel format. Are you kidding me? I paid money for this and it doesn't have a 72 pixel format? So that means I have to edit each individual icon to add the missing formats. NOW WTF? I try to open an icon file with Icon Workshop. --Error while reading the icon file. This file does not contain icons, has an invalid format or is corrupted.--

So I try IconDeveloper. It opens, of course. It's Stardock. I don't like IconDeveloper. I use Icon Workshop. It will take me hours to add the additional formats need/want/should get with a paid version. I know, I'm ranting. Anyone have any ideas, suggestions, similar rants, HELP???!?!!?!

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mormegil

Join Date 03/2001

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Libby. You can upgrade to IP 3.1 for free. if you own any version of Iconpackager, not just 3.0.

Jack, I will be posting a new version of Appoge, that will be free to everyone who has already bought it. And replace the verion that is for sale now. It will contain over 50 new filetypes as well as 16, 32, 48, 64, 72, 128, 256 pixel versions. I forgot to include 72 in these becuse they are desinged for Vista, witch uses 256 for everything above 48. Sorry about the mess up. Please check back in late next week for the update.

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mormegil

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PS. Sorry about the delay on the update. We are finishing up GalCiv2 right now and I am working on it pritymuch 24 7 for the next 8 days. I could update the pack now but I would rather finish it off write. so eveyone is happy. It will be worth the wait I think.

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PoSmedley

Join Date 04/2005

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This is ort of off topic..but..
I am trying to make subpackages for my new Icon Pack and there is no information on this. There is another thread going in Stardock Support on subpackages that has been getting nowhere and I emailed SD Support 4 days ago and have heard nothing. So I am asking....

Does anyone have the Apogee Icon Pack still in it's IP file that could look it over and tell me how it's 'packed, zipped, or formatted'? I understand how it unpacks into the folder and that each subpackage shows up as it's own folder within the Themes folder. What no one seems to be able to figure out is how to get all that info into an IP file to export/upload to WC for others to use. And apparently SD is keeping it a secret for now, I dunno.

I have made a parent IP, and a subpackage. When I open IconPackager, the subpackage shows up in the dropdown that is created in the parentpack..so I have made it correctly. I just need to figure out how to export it as one pack. So far, when I do this, I either lose the icons in the parent pack or the subpack doesn't show up at all.

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Mormegil, thank you so much for the reply. Sorry for the ranting. Any idea why I can't access the individual files with Icon Workshop? Is it some kind of copy-protection?

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thx for the update notice mormegil your a busy man

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PoSmedley

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mormegil..I just looked the thread over again..I didn't realize you were putting together the Apogee Pack....can you explain how the subpackages are applied to the final IP?

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mormegil

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Jack, Probobly becuse they contain the vista Icons, you can update to the newest version and it should fix it.

Po, All you have to do is make sure you have 3.1 then make your main pack. in package builder create your subpackages. Then create your parent package, in package builder you will see a ?????? button, I dont know why this is, named that way. I will yell at brain abou that. Anyway. Here you add new sub package. You can add as many as you want.

PS. If you want to just do it in the package file. There will be a, .packages file as text file and enter them that way. the format is.

[Apogee (White)]
File=..\Apogee (White)\Apogee (White).subpackage
LoadMain=1

You will not the subpacks are called .subpackage, this is the same as .iconpackage, except it hides them in the main list.

I am sure we need to get some UI tweeks in to make it a bit esyer to make these. But it is quite simple even now, once you know were to look.

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PoSmedley

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Thank you so much, mormegil. I posted the info on the other 2 threads.

One other question....
When creating the subpackages..if I am not replacing ALL the icons, do I still drag and drop all of them? What I mean is, will Icon Packager fill in the ones you don't drag and drop into the subpackage with the apropriate ones from the parent file? It would seem ideal, in order to keep the file size down, but I don't know if that's the case.

and..I don't see that '?????' button in Package Builder?? My buttons are New, Open, Recent,Save, SubPackages, Show in Groups, Sort By, Windows View, Custom View.

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mormegil

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I guess I have a old build, you want the sub packages button.

For the sub package just include the Icons you want to change, then check "Load parent" checkbox.

Now go to the finished packages an change the .iconpackes file to .subpackage that way the subpacks will only show up in the dropdown of the parent package. And when it loads, it will load the parent, then the changed Icons on top of it.

The problem is if you leave subpackages as .iconpackage they will continue to show up as a Iconpackage. but when you install them they will not know they are a subpackage an only the included icons.

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Thanks for updating us, Paul.

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PoSmedley

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Thanks Paul!!

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Just a note for those trying to use Axialis icon workshop to open 'Vista" style icons...you need to update your Axialis Icon workshop to V6 from v5 as V5 doesnt support Vista icon format (you will get a message like "this file does not contain icon image" etc)...Axialis Icon workshop v6 has full support for Vista style icons.
cheerz.

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PoSmedley

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I'm just not getting this.

I opened pachage builder and made my parent pack and saved it and get (for example)

PoSmedley.iconpackage in a folder with all the icons.

Now, in package builder, I replace the icons I want to, to make the subpackage. I click on the subpackage button, select ADD NEW...window opens...it wants..

Name...is this the name of the subpackage?

File Name...Should this be the file name of the saved subpackage or the parent package..it gives you the option to browse

Then I check Load Parent

In the Parent Folder I have PoSmedly.iconpackage
and
PoSmedley.packages

My subpackage is it's own folder outside of the Parent Folder. (PoSmedley2.iconpackage with all the icons)

The dropdown in IconPackager shows my subpackage. But when I go to save it all to an IP file...I lose the subpackage.

I tried to open the .packages folder as a text, but windows tells me it doesn't recognize the file ext blah, blah...

Help, please.

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Just a note for those trying to use Axialis icon workshop to open 'Vista" style icons...you need to update your Axialis Icon workshop to V6 from v5 as V5 doesnt support Vista icon format (you will get a message like "this file does not contain icon image" etc)...Axialis Icon workshop v6 has full support for Vista style icons.
cheerz.

Thanks cybermessiah! I haven't updated since 5.1, actually didn't even know there was a V6!

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I tried to open the .packages folder as a text, but windows tells me it doesn't recognize the file ext blah, blah...

Now, that's what You have "Open with..." in the file-context menu for.

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PoSmedley

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ow, that's what You have "Open with..." in the file-context menu for.

For that particular file, the "Open with" option does nt appear.

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PoSmedley

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Okay. I went into properties and made it so it opened with notepad.

1. I have my main package saved as .iconpackage.
2. I made my 3 subpackages, saved them individually.
3. Opened Package Builder, loaded the main package and added the 3 subpackages.
4. Opened the ".packages file" this created in the folder of my main package.
5. Changed the file extension on all three subpackages from ".iconpackage" to "subpackage" with notepad.
6. Went into each of the 3 subpackage folders and changed their extensions from ".iconpackage" to ".subpackage."
7. Looked in IconPackager for the main pack, checked to see that all 3 subpacks were in the drop down menu. They are.
8.Zipped pack as .IP file.
9. Installed it and all I had were the parent icons and nothing but the parent in the drop down.

Now, I tried moving all subpackage files into the parent file...tried this with just the files...and tried it with the three folders for the files..IconPackager can't see them, so I didn't try to zip them into an IP.

I know I have been going on about this, but it's frustrating. What the heck am I missing, or what is being left out on how to do this????

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mormegil

Join Date 03/2001

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Humm.....

OK lets check a few things.

The .packages file should be in the Parent Iconpack. The sub packs should have nothing exta except there .iconpackage file should be .subpackage.

You cant zip all of them up togeather as one ip. becuse Iconpackager dose not recreate the folders when it un zips them. if you just zip them. then unzip them the folders will stay.

I think this is a bug in Iconpackager, it needs to allow you to zip them all togeather. But at the moment you cant. You need to make a IP packager for each package, includeing each sub. The reason I did not run into this problem is becuse the Appogee installer just places all the folders in the /Themes folder as they are. In the meen time you can just make individual IP files, and install them. then it should work.

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PoSmedley

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The .packages file should be in the Parent Iconpack.

It is.

The sub packs should have nothing exta except there .iconpackage file should be .subpackage.
Yes, I changed each to ".subpackage".

You need to make a IP packager for each package, includeing each sub.
I had a feeling it would come to this.
If I have changed all the file extensions in the subpackages from ".iconpackage" to ".subpackage" (which I have)...they no longer show up in IconPackager as IconPacks, but only as subpacks in the dropdown of the parent. They no longer can even be opened in Packagebuilder, because of the file extension change. You can only see them in the dropdown.

So, following all this, I would have to change them BACK to iconpackages to save them in zip as IP files...then they are no longer ".subpackages". And since I can't zip them all together as "one" IP, I basically would have to upload "4 seperate IP files"
and whoever downloaded them would have to change the ".iconpackage" extensions back to "subpackage" in order to use them as such.

The reason I did not run into this problem is becuse the Appogee installer just places all the folders in the /Themes folder as they are.

As I saved each pack...Parent and 3 subpackages...each was automatically saved into the Icon Packeger/Themes folder in their own folder with the ".iconpackage" file extension.

Appogee installer
It sounds like this 'installer' is the key. Is this just an 'installer"? Becuase if it is, wouldn't you still have to able to save all the packages into one zip? OR does the Apogee Installer do that for you? And if so...why isn't built into IconPackager so it can do this?

I don't understand the point of being able to make subpackages if you can't export them easily in one file to share on WC.

So, let me ask...to upload them to WC..would this be the best and does WC upload for IconPackager allow it...
1. Save the parent as an IP with the '.packages file' that lists the subpackages
2. Put it into a regular zip folder with the three subpackages folders, whose file extensions have been changed from '.iconpackage' to '.subpackage'
3. Upload the the zip folder with instructions in the folder or in the comments that the three subpackage folders are to go in the /Themes folder.
?

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PoSmedley

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