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DX Is Better Than Litestep

December 11, 2005 1:35:26 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
So says the general consensus. Why, then, do Litestep themes look better and function better?
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Reply #1 December 11, 2005 2:05:59 PM
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Honestly I don't think they can be compaired. Litestep is a shell replacement and DesktopX does not do that at all.

A better compairison would be Litestep to Aston Shell.

The closest thing to Desktop X is something... I can't remember the name... I think its on Deviant Art and then Konfabulator (and I am not really sure if Konfabulator can be directly compaired either but it comes close to DX in widget making but not desktop replacement)
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Reply #2 December 11, 2005 3:09:44 PM
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Themes. Not widgets.
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Reply #3 December 11, 2005 7:02:30 PM
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Litestep = Shell Replacement, actually changes the GUI, it is not explorer.exe it it litestep.exe.

DX = No change in GUI, just makes it more efficient or custom built. (All it does is hiding taskbar and desktop icons, but doesn't change the GUI).

A comparison between the two is not possible programmatically speaking cause DX still needs work to fully implement coding languages (VBA,Java,etc...while in Litestep these are already there, hence the steadiness you mention), but visually well DX has room to expand and progress. My guess for future: DX will beat competition from any other program. The codes will give you the ability to create almost anything for your computer, whole programs within the program, while graphics...well it's up to skinners to raise the level.
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Reply #4 December 11, 2005 7:47:28 PM
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There are many threads in this forum regarding this subject. I am well aware of what Litestep is and what DX is. Which, of course, doesn't answer the question. Why should I, for example, use Litestep Antares over DX Antares?
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Reply #5 December 11, 2005 8:05:14 PM
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Why should I, for example, use Litestep Antares over DX Antares?


Since you know the difference between them, and none of us know what you want, like, need as far as customization, only you can answer your question.
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Reply #6 December 11, 2005 8:42:43 PM
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Why should I, for example, use Litestep Antares over DX Antares?

Because Litestep Antares is mine....and it'd make me feel all warm and fuzzy.....

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Reply #7 December 11, 2005 9:46:51 PM
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Because Litestep Antares is mine....and it'd make me feel all warm and fuzzy.....
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Reply #8 December 11, 2005 10:30:40 PM
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I'm more partial to Avenger. But as long as Jafo's feeling "warm and fuzzy" is all that matters.

Feel the Litestep love.
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Reply #9 December 11, 2005 11:35:37 PM
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Litestep is my shell of choice, Antares is awsome. I hate "warm and fuzzy", it means I need a shower and shave!
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Reply #10 December 12, 2005 4:18:17 AM
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Because Litestep Antares is mine

DX ANTARES is mine and it makes me feel "warmer and fuzzier".

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Reply #11 December 12, 2005 6:53:41 AM
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Jafo and gef
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Reply #12 December 12, 2005 7:36:10 AM
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Hmmm....matchsticks at 15 paces.....

The battle is joined....

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Reply #13 December 12, 2005 7:44:53 AM
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I'd use LS over DX any day, becauase as a theming program, LS is better. DX is pretty much just developed as a widget factory these days, so very few people take advantage of it as a theming program. Plus the taskbar and systray in it are very limited. The can only do single rows, no double height.
You can build a pretty functional LS themes, with lots of neat modules, without having to know any complicated coding stuff either. It's all very straightforward text-based formats.

If you know how to code, then DX can be used in a way that would smoke an LS theme, but unfortunately coding isn't a skill a lot of themers posess.(The exception to this is Gef. He's really carrying DX theming by himself, and he does a good job)

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Reply #14 December 12, 2005 4:41:58 PM
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There are many threads in this forum regarding this subject. I am well aware of what Litestep is and what DX is. Which, of course, doesn't answer the question. Why should I, for example, use Litestep Antares over DX Antares?



I guess I don't get the question then unless it specifically has to do with themes that are the same name on DX and on Litestep.

All I can say is, even when talking about themes, that they are not conparable because one is a shell replacement and the other isn't.

So as far as proformance, i would guess that anything that replaces the shell would be more native than something that sits on top of it.
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Reply #15 December 12, 2005 4:58:17 PM
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Since "Obsidian", the question is now moot.
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Reply #16 December 13, 2005 1:26:17 PM
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If you know how to code, then DX can be used in a way that would smoke an LS theme,


that´s not an advantage DX has over LS. there are modules that work as hosts for Visual Basic (LSVirus.dll) or Java (forgot the name, it´s pretty old). the latest hype is LSLua.dll though. Link
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Reply #17 December 14, 2005 11:53:39 AM
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Visual Basic (LSVirus.dll)



They called it Virus?

If you know how to code, then DX can be used in a way that would smoke an LS theme



#16 by moshi
Tue, December 13, 2005 1:26 PM



that´s not an advantage DX has over LS.


Yeah, I was thinking that. Although DX, I think, does have more options, but a good coder could probably find work around for LiteStep (for the most part).

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And Obsidian is pretty cool. Another theme that makes me want to install LiteStep (I just don't know if I am geeky enough to remove Explorer). I mean just look at that thing! Even the shut down panel and windows are skinned (can't do that with DX... not that I would want to having WindowBlinds).

Personally, though, I think gef, Chadamus, Boxxi (have you seen Nijikon Fetchi 2??? Jafo should be jealous), and even _Martin_, MikeB314, Adam Solley, sranshaft (professional citrus v1.0 and others) and myself (back in the day... I love my 'STAY' and visorekVIPER' themes. I was taking it to the NeXt level there with dual desktop themes on one desktop with a click of a button *toot toot*)
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Reply #18 December 14, 2005 12:05:14 PM
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That new Obsidian theme looks pretty dang cool, Jafo&gef. You may finally have competition in the LSthemes.
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