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Computer stops responding on shutdown...

November 16, 2005 11:37:19 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
IN the past my computer would freeze at the the shutdown screen occasionally, but now it happens everytime i shut it down. Does anyone know how to fix this? It hangs at the "Windows is shutting down..." screen on restarts and shutdowns. I did some research on google but i still couldnt a solution.
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Reply #1 November 17, 2005 12:24:22 AM
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A program is hanging. If it's not frozen, you can hit Restart or Shutdown twice and Windows will force it. To find the app hanging, kill running apps (NOT any Windows processes) one at a time until the computer shuts down/restarts properly. When it works correctly, note the app that you just killed.......that's the problem app.
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Reply #2 November 17, 2005 7:47:00 AM
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Computer stops responding on shutdown...

Glad Gary helped you out.
This title was beggin for a smart ass answer.
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Reply #3 November 17, 2005 9:01:23 AM
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Definitely follow yrag's advice.

You can also follow the instructions here: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1590&page=32 to shorten shutdown times, and to have windows kill hung apps.

.....I always thought a computer not responding was kind of the definition of a shutdown.

This title was beggin for a smart ass answer.
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Reply #4 November 17, 2005 4:31:54 PM
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thanks so much guys. lol i didnt even notice that about the title.

should those registry changes be safe?
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Reply #5 November 17, 2005 4:45:47 PM
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Many times when this happens it is caused by the shutting down sound wave. Go to your control panel, then to Sounds, Speech and Audio devices. Under Pick a task click Change the sound scheme and scroll till you find exit windows and turn it off.
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Reply #6 November 17, 2005 4:51:43 PM
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should those registry changes be safe?


I've tried all of the PCStats registry tweaks for a faster Windows, and have had no problems with them. To be sure, always make a backup registry and tweak one at a time so you know which one messed up if there is a problem.
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Reply #7 November 17, 2005 6:51:22 PM
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the title has been cracking me up 2 days now
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Reply #8 November 18, 2005 8:19:39 PM
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Me too!! Poor caveman...
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Reply #9 November 18, 2005 8:50:33 PM
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I 'could' edit it to 'during shutdown', instead of 'on shutdown'....
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Reply #10 November 18, 2005 8:57:45 PM
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NO..No, please don't, I get a little charge each time I pass over this one. I even thought about bumping it just so I could read the title every once in a while.
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Reply #11 November 18, 2005 9:05:30 PM
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Reply #12 November 18, 2005 10:29:59 PM
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I was going have some fun with him about the title, but thought it might be viewed as somewhat tasteless......

..............so much for taste......
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Reply #13 November 19, 2005 12:43:19 AM
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haha, at the other forum where I posted about this, no one even mentioned the title.

I think the cause of this problem is the uninstall of my ATI software. I removed all the aspects of it in the add/remove programs list, but i cant get rid of the ATI drivers in the list. I think i am going to use DriverCleaner to try and remove them.
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Reply #14 November 19, 2005 12:56:17 AM
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Don't worry.....we won't keep bumping it for a cheap chuckle at your expense......

....we'll make it a sticky
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Reply #15 November 19, 2005 1:06:19 AM
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Don't worry.....we won't keep bumping it for a cheap chuckle at your expense......

....we'll make it a sticky


haha go right ahead, lol.

Anyway, what do you think of DriverCleaner, gary?
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Reply #16 November 19, 2005 1:12:33 AM
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Try it...can't hurt. Un-install the ATI drivers in 'Add and Remove' and then re-boot into Safemode. Run Driver Cleaner from there. After it's done, boot into Windows (ATI won't install in SM) and install the drivers. I'm assuming you still have the ATI card. If you have something else (NVidia), let me know.......
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Reply #17 November 19, 2005 1:17:17 AM
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What ATI card, i do not want ATI's programs. I just want to clean my system of all aspects of ATI. I am happy with the generic windows drivers and i would rather use these. Thanks for the help.
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Reply #18 November 19, 2005 1:23:25 AM
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Wait a minute......ya lost me. What 'aspects' of ATI do you have?
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Reply #19 November 19, 2005 1:41:21 AM
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I only have the ATI drivers left in the add/remove list. I uninstalled all other parts of the ATI software.
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Reply #20 November 19, 2005 1:49:53 AM
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Ok......I guess. Running Driver Cleaner in Safe Mode will certainly get rid of 'em for you.
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Reply #21 November 19, 2005 1:58:51 AM
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I guess you are wondering why i want to do this. lol

After installing the ATI catalyst control center, my computer started to load really slowly when i logged on. It would also stop responding at times, and this is when the shut down problem first started. Thanks again man, i guess ill run driver cleaner.
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Reply #22 November 19, 2005 2:34:34 AM
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Don't do the install in automatic and just install the actuall video drivers after you run Driver Cleaner. It may be al the excess crap they put on the disc causing trouble. GL!
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Reply #23 November 19, 2005 6:22:30 AM
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Caveman I had similar problems as you when I first installed the software for my ATI card from the packaged disc. The solution for me was to download the most recent drivers from the ATI site, completely uninstall the existing software, run the driver cleaner and install the updated drivers. I also have the updated Catalyst Control Center installed, with no slow startups or hang on shutdown, as previously experienced with the packaged software.

You could try this to get the full benifit of your ATI card...also if you want to access the new features of WB5. However, if you simply don't want or need the Catalyst Control Center, or you discover it's the cause of your issue, I believe the D/L has a custom install to only load the drivers.
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Reply #24 November 19, 2005 7:23:36 AM
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BTW - ATI offers a uninstall utility which will remove all ATI files from your system.

ATI site > Drivers and Software > Utilities > Various > CATALYST - ATI maintenance utilities > download "cat-uninstaller.exe".

You can then download the "Display driver only" file via the "Low Speed (Dial-up)" section.

This file will still install an executible which will run as a process during normal operation, but you may find the benefits outweigh the added resource use.

Otherwise, you already know you can use the Microsoft drivers for ATI products included with the OS, which are not quite as advanced - but do the job for general use.

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Reply #25 November 19, 2005 12:05:10 PM
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I really dont want or need ATI software. After i run DriverCleaner, would windows reinstall the generic drivers that came on the system?

I just ran the ATI uninstaller and after a reboot, the drivers are still in the add/remove programs list.
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