okay - created a new limited account
no WB in display properties
ran SDC - ran WB - set a skin - made sure 'show tray icon' was checked

couldn't find Object dock in the start list - browsed via 'my computer' - ran it and put in 'Objectdock tray' just in case WB icon showed there but not in reg systray

ran CXP just because


logged out - logged in later - WB loaded up, systray icon showed (and in the dock)

forgot to to check if WB shows in display
and when i switch users my connection dies

so far, seems to working on limited as it should
I'll try a reboot shortly

Thanks again Bichur. One awesome troll!   Oddly I find everything works as it should today. Probably a coincidence but I finally got rid of a really persistant downloader trojan this morning. I can't see how one would affect the other but who knows what evil lurks in the heart of the beast.