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Is the Xbox 360 the second coming of Dreamcast

Console wars heating up again

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November 7, 2005 1:35:08 AM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
1Up has a terrific article comparing the similarities and differences of Microsoft's upcoming Xbox 360 game console. Definitely worth the read!
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Reply #1 November 7, 2005 2:10:34 AM
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That is a fantastic little article.
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Reply #2 November 7, 2005 2:12:43 AM
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I laffed a little, I nodded with acceptance but it didn't make me cry. Very interesting, though.
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Reply #3 November 7, 2005 3:01:44 AM
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I.... think.... that... is the most... crazy thing I have seen.

That is way WAY WAY too many simulatirites. When they said the same person running the marketing was the same person who ran it for Sega I stopped reading for a good minute trying to take it all in.


I still am getting the XBOX over the PS3 because the PS3 is just too expensive and wants to be everything AND a gaming system when all I want it a gaming system with some extra features.


So Microsoft gave up on Blu-Ray (or was it HD-DVD? I can't remember now)?

Did you guys look at simularity number 9?


I still think the XBOX will be better... mostly because Microsoft is putting billions into it and the gamins system is part of it multimedia plan (like plugging into XP Media OS and using WMP music files and codec)

Plus, the online features were very successful and the games they have for it are pretty good (not that Dreamcast didn't have good games... or did it? I can't remember... too busy playing on the Playstation to notice).

On page 2 (why the XBOX will last) the biggest most important differences are #1-4 (4 in piticular), 7 and 10.

#7 playing the biggest role... Halo 3? Its like people waiting for a movie blockbuster. If you think people buy iPods that cost 300 USD because its cool, they will buy a 300 USD gaming system to get Halo and some other games that are already classics out the gate. Final Fantasy? EA Sports? Project Gotham? OnLine Play? Intergration with Windows XP and even Windows VS?????

The PlayStation has allot of worry days ahead of it.

500 dollars for a gaming system... no exuse me... an entertainment system? Puh-leese. Sony (I'll bet a million pennies) will sell the PS3 for the same price as the XBOX with major losses per machine instead of selling it for 500.

PS3 is the better gaming system overall, but lets focus on gaming first. Look at what XBOX is doing. Gaming first, other stuff second.
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Reply #4 November 7, 2005 3:04:32 AM
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I.... think.... that... is the most... crazy thing I have seen.

That is way WAY WAY too many simulatirites. When they said the same person running the marketing was the same person who ran it for Sega I stopped reading for a good minute trying to take it all in.


I still am getting the XBOX over the PS3 because the PS3 is just too expensive and wants to be everything AND a gaming system when all I want it a gaming system with some extra features.


So Microsoft gave up on Blu-Ray (or was it HD-DVD? I can't remember now)?

Did you guys look at simularity number 9?


I still think the XBOX will be better... mostly because Microsoft is putting billions into it and the gamins system is part of it multimedia plan (like plugging into XP Media OS and using WMP music files and codec)

Plus, the online features were very successful and the games they have for it are pretty good (not that Dreamcast didn't have good games... or did it? I can't remember... too busy playing on the Playstation to notice).

On page 2 (why the XBOX will last) the biggest most important differences are #1-4 (4 in piticular), 7 and 10.

#7 playing the biggest role... Halo 3? Its like people waiting for a movie blockbuster. If you think people buy iPods that cost 300 USD because its cool, they will buy a 300 USD gaming system to get Halo and some other games that are already classics out the gate. Final Fantasy? EA Sports? Project Gotham? OnLine Play? Intergration with Windows XP and even Windows VS?????

The PlayStation has allot of worry days ahead of it.

500 dollars for a gaming system... no exuse me... an entertainment system? Puh-leese. Sony (I'll bet a million pennies) will sell the PS3 for the same price as the XBOX with major losses per machine instead of selling it for 500.

PS3 is the better gaming system overall, but lets focus on gaming first. Look at what XBOX is doing. Gaming first, other stuff second.
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Reply #5 November 7, 2005 3:08:49 AM
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So is final fantasy XII going to be on exclusive on PS3, Xbox 2 or both? I have read it is exclusive on Xbox and PS3 so which is it ?!!!

Thats what will deside it for me, i bought the PS2 because i wanted Final Fantasy X, and X-2 was a bonus. I know kingdom hearts 2 is on PS3 but it is not enough to sway me.
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Reply #6 November 7, 2005 3:23:13 AM
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I'll stick with PlayStation. XBOX sucks in my opinion. Another good thing is that Sony has a handheld - the PSP. MS dosen't. And yep PS has more games.
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Reply #7 November 7, 2005 4:05:03 AM
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Half of those examples were contrived but I can give you proof, in five words, that not only will the Xbox 360 not flop, it will crush the PS3. Are you ready? Are you sure? Ok, here we go:
Bill. Gates. works. for. Microsoft. So suck on that.
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Reply #8 November 7, 2005 4:08:50 AM
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Half of those examples were contrived but I can give you proof, in five words, that not only will the Xbox 360 not flop, it will crush the PS3. Are you ready? Are you sure? Ok, here we go:
Bill. Gates. works. for. Microsoft. So suck on that.
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Reply #9 November 7, 2005 4:09:37 AM
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sorry about the triple post.
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Reply #10 November 7, 2005 5:03:24 AM
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Whatever...
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Reply #11 November 7, 2005 6:12:39 AM
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Good one. Either you know I'm right or you haven't noticed what a badass Bill Gates is.
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Reply #12 November 7, 2005 6:25:50 AM
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whoops... triple post. there was some sort of time out when I posted before... saawweeee
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Reply #13 November 7, 2005 6:36:04 AM
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Really disappointed with the the few games I have played on 360. The alias is terrible when running at HDTV res. Will still get one as I pre-ordered over 5 months ago... just hope the next few generations are better.

As to the PS3, who knows how much its going to cost? You can't base whether or not you will buy it because of that! No-one knows. Not a hope in hell of 360 'crushing' PS3. It will definitely be far more competition than the XBOX ever was but I still believe it will lose out this generation, if only marginally.

Nintendo may yet suprise us also.
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Reply #14 November 7, 2005 7:30:56 AM
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Bah... I still love my Dreamcast. VGA monitor output = awesome. Every game I have played with it, I have loved the experience with it. You cannot beat that. So what if you can output the 360 to HDTV? It's not the same as being able to hook it up to a common computer monitor and being able to view games in 480p. You tell me what's cheaper in terms of experience.
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Reply #15 November 7, 2005 8:26:30 AM
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and yeah... Billy works for the m$... so what?
LOL

XBOX will be the better gaming pltform because of its focus on gaming, not being an entire entertainment system like the PS3. You should read all the junk they are putting in it.

Now, I'll change my mind if they sell it for 300 or even 350... but 500? Your out of your mind. I on't need a TV tuner on my gamin system
LOL

What the heck is that about?

Playstations only hope is a lower price point OR letting the PS3 be a gaming system and let the PSP be the entertainment system... you see the PSP has more potential of having all the add-ons that they want to put on the PS3.

Put it on the PSP and let the PSP connect to the PS3. Now you have WiFi, FM Radiao... maybe even XM Satelite, and organizer, Yahoo or AIM IM systems, web browsing.

I see what they want to do, but the cost is too high and I don't think people are reay for a gaming systems that doe s all of that... but a portable.? been ready for that. Apple made the way clear, now all Sony has to do is make the PSP do it all except make phone calls... and it might do that too with Yahoo messenger on it (VOIP).

What do you think? PS3 need to drop all of that crap and focus on gaming?
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Reply #16 November 7, 2005 8:46:42 AM
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X360 is just as guilty of not concentrating on gaming. Have you seen all the enterainment centre stuff that comes with 360?
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Reply #17 November 7, 2005 8:52:15 AM
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Interesting, if not a bit contrived.
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Reply #18 November 7, 2005 9:24:13 AM
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Well the article still scared me at first. I was like OH - NO. After I shelled out over a GRAND for the BUNDLE Package!!

I also had the dreamcast and Loved it but the games stopped coming!

Glad to see the article had a UP SWING! but the Title snagged me - made me nervous as hell!

l8r
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Reply #19 November 7, 2005 10:55:57 AM
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I still am getting the XBOX over the PS3 because the PS3 is just too expensive and wants to be everything AND a gaming system when all I want it a gaming system with some extra features.

I don't believe the PS3 price has been set yet.  Also, do you believe the XBox 360 is just a "gaming system"?

 

When combined with a Media Center enabled PC and a wireless connection, the Extender Kit lets Xbox owners easily transmit and access entertainment data stored on their PCs on the console. Users can browse, find, and listen to digital music (thanks to built-in Napster support), look at photos, watch TV and shows recorded on the PC, and access DVDs, utilizing the standard Windows Media Center user interface. In practice, this means one user can watch TV on the Media Center PC in the living room, while another watches a recorded movie using the Xbox Media Center Extender Kit in another room. Up to five different instances of the Media Center interface can run simultaneously.

 

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Reply #20 November 7, 2005 1:23:38 PM
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Joe I have a PSP and it has an internet browser and connects through wifi.
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Reply #21 November 7, 2005 5:33:49 PM
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I'm waiting for a Revolution. Nobody even talks about Nintendo in next-gen discussions...it's like they don't even exist. But wait...watch us all be shocked, stunned when they start revealing games...

I hope, anyway...
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Reply #22 November 7, 2005 6:11:48 PM
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Wow. Some of you are really loyal to your gaming consoles. Isn't Halo 3 going to be out for PC also? And I thought that Final Fantasy XII was PS3 exclusive! Is the same guy doing Sony's marketing, too???
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Reply #23 November 7, 2005 10:38:34 PM
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and yeah... Billy works for the m$... so what?
LOL


Very eloquent. The point I'm trying to make is that the Xbox was a piece of crap, technologically speaking, and yet...here it remains. Xbox 360 appears to be very impressive technologically speaking. There are many variables involved that I don't fully understand, but one important thing I do understand is the person backing Xbox 360. My point is this: never doubt Bill Gates. Whether you think Microsoft and Bill Gates are evil is beside the point. If there's money to be made, Bill Gates will be the one making it and thus, Xbox 360 will become the most popular system. Sony's Playstation will, over time, become the Linux to Microsoft's Windows, so to speak.


Interesting, if not a bit contrived.


Thank you, Apprentice Sembetu.
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Reply #24 November 7, 2005 11:04:22 PM
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Sony's Playstation will, over time, become the Linux to Microsoft's Windows, so to speak.


I seriously doubt that. Playstation has more games and PS3 will have better graphics than the 360. Gamers like better graphics. Gamers like more selection in games. Another thing to think about is the fact that PS3 will be backwards compatable. I have heard the the 360 will not be. I think the 360 will be murdered by the PS3 and the only thing that will keep the 360's head above water will be Halo 3. And NO I don't believe Final Fantasy 12 will be on Xbox. I did hear that they are making a Final Fantasy 7 part 2 for the PSP however.
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Reply #25 November 7, 2005 11:45:13 PM
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Another thing to think about is the fact that PS3 will be backwards compatable. I have heard the the 360 will not be.


I've heard that if you walk slowly across the freeway with your eyes closed, you gain magical powers.

http://www.qbrundage.com/michaelb/pubs/essays/xbox360.html
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