Cyberworld

Join Date 07/2002

Windows Vista: Will it be good or bad?

Well to see things in perspective. Microsoft made her first really impressive appearence in Operating Systems with Windows 95,which was a pretty stable and well designed OS in its own time. Some say it was the most stable ever OS, by others it was characterized as a radical evolution in the world of PCs. Since then Microsoft has launched a series of OSs into the market. Some where good and found a grandiose appeal amongst PC users (Win 98),some of them have not been so good (Win Me,Win NT) and some of them are still being fixed (Win XP). If we see things in timeline perspective it took three years for Win 98 to be developed into a functional well-organized system,whilst the rest not so good OSs where made into less than two years time distance between them. Now MS is in the labs again working on a whole new OS,Windows Vista (leaving Longhorn in the shelf for another couple of years). What do you think about it? Will Vista be the next generations reavolution? The evolution to a revolution as promised? Or just another OS amongst the others?

Another interesting is whether Vista will be good for the skinning world?

Any opinions?

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First off, characterizing Win95 as the most stable OS ever is quite an overstatement. It was a definite improvement over 3.1 but it wasn't until XP that I felt MS finally got things mostly right.
I like most of what Vista is going to be and I think its mostly a step in the right direction. I am looking forward to it.
I think also it will be a great addition to skinning.

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kona0197

Join Date 02/2003

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Now MS is in the labs again working on a whole new OS,Windows Vista (leaving Longhorn in the shelf for another couple of years).

Longhorn IS Vista. MS renemed Longhorn to Vista a few months ago.

As far as Vista I hope it will be more secure than XP - no viruses or spyware thank you.

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MarkMcQ

Join Date 03/2001

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As far as Vista I hope it will be more secure than XP - no viruses or spyware thank you.

I hear they're working on World Peace down in Redmond as well.

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Cyberworld, unless I havent been paying attention..I hate to say it, But I think Kona is correct..Vista is Longhorn renamed..

Ghos- You must admit, Win95 was *At the time* the most stable OS around,,I think thats what he meant..*At the time*

Kona..LoL..if you dont want Spyware, Virii, Spam, OS Glitches etc..etc.. get rid of your PC because they all are here to stay..as Hippy more or less pointed out..LoL!

I think Vista is gonna ROCK! Cyberworld.. I like everything I have read so far about the OS and personally cant wait for a final public release!..

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I think Vista is gonna ROCK! Cyberworld.. I like everything I have read so far about the OS and personally cant wait for a final public release!..

specking of pubilc release....WHEN WILL IT BE RELASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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kona0197

Join Date 02/2003

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From what I've read Late 2006 Bash. About this time next year.

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starkers

Join Date 05/2004

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Given the feedback Brad is so kindly providing us from PDC 2005, Vista is shaping up to be the most progressive and innovative OS's ever released by MS. The reports to date suggest that positive things are happening with Vista and I'm looking forward to its public release with the greatest anticipation.

Will Vista be good for skinning, well yes I think so....MS has taken the technology of XP by the scruff of the neck and added even more to give the user even more scope.

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thomassen

Join Date 01/2003

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I think Vista will be very good. I'm also very excited about what I hear about Vista realkted to skinning and gadgets.

As for Win95 being the most stable OS at that time, I found Win3.1 more stable. Rarely ever crashed.

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Longhorn IS Vista. MS renemed Longhorn to Vista a few months ago.

Actually i read that Vista took the place of Longhorn,whilst Longhorn still remains in the projects,but it has been moved to some years later,maybe in 2008 they'll release Windows Lognhorn.

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Given the feedback Brad is so kindly providing us from PDC 2005, Vista is shaping up to be the most progressive and innovative OS's ever released by MS.

Big chears for Brad,he's been doing a hell of a job informing us all about Vista developments.

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I think Vista will be very good. I'm also very excited about what I hear about Vista realkted to skinning and gadgets.

Yeap gadgets will be very useful. Unfortunately it'll probably be the end of DX too.

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There is also the Blackcomb project by MS,which has also been moved to a later time alongside with Win Longhorn.

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Island Dog

Join Date 06/2003

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I also heard they are reverse engineering a captured UFO, and that will be released sometime with Longhorn also.

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Longhorn was the code-name for what became Windows Vista. They are the same product.

Windows 95 was not stable, not by a long shot. Windows NT 4.0 (1996) was, IMO, the first decent Microsoft OS.

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Yeap gadgets will be very useful. Unfortunately it'll probably be the end of DX too

Why do you think that? Gadgets are gadgets are gadgets. DesktopX Pro will be one way of creating those gadgets.

Which do you really think most users are going to want to do?

a) Buy the Expression Suite ($499) + Visual Studio 2005 ($1999) in order to make gadgets.

Buy DesktopX Pro ($69.95) which includes a lot of templates and content to make gadget creation easy to make those same gadgets?

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Ummm ...geez Brad, thats a tough question ...got an easier one?

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Longhorn was the code-name for what became Windows Vista. They are the same product.

You are right Frogboy,only the magazine i read writes that Longhorn has been postponed.All others say that Vista IS Longhorn. My fault i guess...man is sooo difficult to find a decent PC Magazine in Greek.

Been doing a lil googling...results from Wiki:

Windows Vista, abbreviated WinVI, is Microsoft's next version of its Windows operating system, succeeding to Windows XP. It was previously known by its codename Longhorn (for a full list, see Microsoft codenames); the name "Vista" was unveiled on July 22, 2005. Longhorn Server, the successor of Windows Server 2003, is yet to be named. Windows Vista will carry the version number 6.0 (Windows 2000, Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 being Windows NT versions 5.0, 5.1 and 5.2, respectively).

Also the link below is very interesting:

Link

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Jafo

Join Date 03/2001

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Some say it was the most stable ever OS,

Some say the world is flat......

.....probably the very same 'some'.....

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Buy DesktopX Pro ($69.95) which includes a lot of templates and content to make gadget creation easy to make those same gadgets?

I must agree that DX is probably the easiest and most economic way for a user to make gadgets until now. But in the near future i'm not certain as to what will happen. Isn't Microsoft trying to built a site about gadgets? Link

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Some say the world is flat......
.....probably the very same 'some'.....

Ouchy that hurt!

But you do crack me up Jafo!

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What does Microsoft having a gadget site have to do with anything? Microsoft also has a site for downloading media player skins.

If you're an end user, gadgets are gadgets. For developers, Microsoft having a gadget site means nothing. DesktopGadgets.com will support gadgets in all their forms.

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If you're an end user, gadgets are gadgets.

So i assume the site is only for end-users.

Thank you for the clarifications Frogboy.

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As to the main subject i wonder what is your personal view? Will Vista be good or problematic?

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thomassen

Join Date 01/2003

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Buy the Expression Suite ($499) + Visual Studio 2005 ($1999) in order to make gadgets.

You can get VS2005 Express for $49. It's meant for beginning and hobbyist programmers.

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I think Vista will be incredibly good for skinning. The types of programs we can make for customization is severely limited under windows XP for performance.

But in Windows Vista, it's all a 3D surface with 3D acceleration. So we'll be able to create all kinds of things.

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