If we learned anything from the original Radeon, ATI can overcome what nVidia puts out. Their newest chipset (R520, iirc) is supposed to be blazingly fast. Also in ATI's near future, is Crossfire, their version of SLI, which from what I've read about it, is supposed to simply DOUBLE whatever your performance is. So if you get 13,000 on 3DMark, with a second ATI card, you will get 26,000. Whether or not this is all true is yet to be seen...but I'm betting ATI blows away nVidia with their next line of cards. As of right now though, I'll admit...the 7800 series is easily top dog.