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Frogboy
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Reply #26 July 4, 2005 7:59:51 PM
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Kona may be ah-pinn-yunn-ayted, but he's no troll......I think.

More on topic, we've deployed MS Anti-spyware across our network at work. While none of the AS progies out there catch everything, the MS-AS seems to catch the most, including "Search 180 Assistant" (if you've tried to remove this one, you know almost nothing else will get rid of it) it also incorporates a BHO watcher, that can take the place of other such programs (SpywareBlaster, SpywareGuard, BHODemon) so you don't have to have so many programs loading on startup.
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Frogboy
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Reply #27 July 5, 2005 1:08:42 AM
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Hmm... I thought that MS AS looked like GIANT AS


It does - because Microsoft bought the Anti-spyware program from Giant.


My point exactly
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Reply #28 July 5, 2005 12:39:31 PM
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I've tried it out, but I prefer not to have a program like it running all the time. Through a combination of using Firefox and being an intelligent person while using IE, I haven't gotten any spyware in well over a year and a half.

Still, MS Anti-Spyware, or the MS antivirus program that has been rumored about, is only fine unless they charge money for the service. How would it make sense for the consumer if a company that sells products with security vulnerabilities while claiming they're secure charges money for protection from their own program holes? Granted not every piece of spyware or virus/worm exploits a programming flaw (such as when users click installer boxes on the Internet or ports that are open by default are targeted) but still, that's awfully scummy. And no, this is in no way comparable to dealers who charge for repairs to cars, so don't bring it up.
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Frogboy
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Reply #29 July 5, 2005 2:13:49 PM
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Heh im usually the first to mention linux when the time comes.... but this aint about linux.

I would expect this to be the best because noone knows how to protect windows, better than microsoft. It all depends on much resources they spend on protecting windows rather then putting in new features.
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Reply #30 July 5, 2005 3:37:15 PM
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From the reviews I've read, the best out there are MS's, CounterSpy, and SpySweeper. But, at least for now, MS's is free. The only minor annoyance that I have with MS's is it tends to drop multiple copies of its icon into the tray. I've had like 15 target icons in my tray.
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Reply #31 July 5, 2005 7:33:33 PM
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I've tried it out, but I prefer not to have a program like it running all the time. Through a combination of using Firefox and being an intelligent person while using IE, I haven't gotten any spyware in well over a year and a half.

Still, MS Anti-Spyware, or the MS antivirus program that has been rumored about, is only fine unless they charge money for the service. How would it make sense for the consumer if a company that sells products with security vulnerabilities while claiming they're secure charges money for protection from their own program holes? Granted not every piece of spyware or virus/worm exploits a programming flaw (such as when users click installer boxes on the Internet or ports that are open by default are targeted) but still, that's awfully scummy. And no, this is in no way comparable to dealers who charge for repairs to cars, so don't bring it up.


If MS does come out with an AV product, I hope that Longhorn has both the AV and AS programs included with the system, or on the cd. Unfortunately, MS will probably be sued for Anti-competitive behaveior, so it's most likely out of the question.
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Reply #32 July 5, 2005 7:39:52 PM
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Unfortunately, MS will probably be sued for Anti-competitive behaveior, so it's most likely out of the question.

Arguably if they are included it's to repair the 'holes' in the OS and not competitive at all.

Afterall, all those AV companies out there are simply profitting on the MS OS failings.....so what 'IF' MS were to produce a virus-proof OS?  Would likely kill Symantec, etc, but anti-competitive?  No.

Having car tyres that last the life of the car would likely kill the after-market Tyre companies too...but that's life....

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Reply #33 July 5, 2005 9:38:34 PM
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Arguably if they are included it's to repair the 'holes' in the OS and not competitive at all.

Afterall, all those AV companies out there are simply profitting on the MS OS failings.....so what 'IF' MS were to produce a virus-proof OS? Would likely kill Symantec, etc, but anti-competitive? No.

Having car tyres that last the life of the car would likely kill the after-market Tyre companies too...but that's life....


Very true. Otherwise, MS wouldnt be able to fix their OS without being sued =P
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Reply #34 July 5, 2005 10:41:58 PM
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Very good observations Jafo, and I agree 100%.. And really, would it hurt anyone if Symantec went to the grave?

On another note.. "Tyres" ?? Jafo, a purposely misspelled word?? Im astonished!!..LoL
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Reply #35 July 5, 2005 11:18:13 PM
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On another note.. "Tyres" ?? Jafo, a purposely misspelled word?? Im astonished!!..LoL


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Reply #36 July 6, 2005 12:02:59 AM
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tyre Br & Aus. tire Am.....
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Reply #37 July 6, 2005 1:30:01 AM
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LoL..Hmmmmmm..Ok..I suspected it was something like that..(only because I considered the source!..LoL) honestly did not know...

Tyres-Tires..guess it's what your used to - or proper in your part of the world.... I need some right now by the way and I bet they are still expensive no matter what the spelling!
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Reply #38 July 6, 2005 9:26:40 PM
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~


Producing a virus-proof OS,

is about as likely as,

having car tyres that last the life of the car.


I am saving the address to this thread for future reference.


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Reply #39 July 6, 2005 9:35:28 PM
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Producing a virus-proof OS,

is about as likely as,

having car tyres that last the life of the car.

Easy..... just make the life of the car shorter....

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Reply #40 July 6, 2005 10:19:38 PM
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Easy..... just make the life of the car shorter....


They all ready did...
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Reply #41 July 7, 2005 12:05:19 AM
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Sorry - I'm NOT a troll...


You dinnit hafta make sound so bad.
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Frogboy
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Reply #42 July 7, 2005 3:14:09 PM
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Disappointed to see this today:
"A few weeks ago, the nastyware from Claria, called Gator,
was flagged and removed by Microsoft's anti-spyware program.
But now that the two companies are in buyout talks, suddenly
an updated version of the Microsoft program is programmed to
"ignore" those spyware apps by default. And let's face it,
who changes the defaults? It's just another example of
Microsoft selling out. Didn't we learn this lesson long ago?
One company, controlling everything, just isn't good for
users."
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Reply #43 July 7, 2005 3:55:57 PM
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Good thing I use Ad-Aware and Spybot along with MS Antispware...
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Reply #44 July 8, 2005 6:12:50 AM
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...Seems like Microsoft and Sony tends to come out with crap that breaks down (when they can produce products that actually work) just so that they can "fix" it and charge us money, or force or hand into replacing the defected product...I smell conspiracy!!!
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