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May 6, 2005 6:04:04 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
Not sure what to make of this. Rules are rules, but sometimes it's best to exercise good form.. *sigh*.. what's next?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/05/06/call.suspension.ap/index.html
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Reply #1 May 6, 2005 6:04:55 PM
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This is the part that gets me...
"we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days"


umm...
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Reply #2 May 6, 2005 6:27:01 PM
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http://www.mcsdga.net/news/SpencerStatement06-May051_2_.pdf

This may be why.. eh?.. Well, does it change your opinion of how it was handled?
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Reply #3 May 6, 2005 6:42:22 PM
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Cell phones are allowed on campus but may not be used during school hours.


Thats the part I like.
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Reply #4 May 6, 2005 7:09:08 PM
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Reply #5 May 6, 2005 7:12:21 PM
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Yea, you have to attach the ".pdf" to the end of the URL while in the browser. For some reason when I posted it, the file extension was ignored as part of the total URL heh.. Sorry.
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Reply #6 May 6, 2005 7:24:25 PM
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I think the teacher and the school are being insensitive. Imagine how they would feel if, (God forbid) his mom was killed in action tomorrow. I would have become angry and abusive too. Would it have hurt to have given him 5 more minutes or so? Especially as it was lunchtime.
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Reply #7 May 6, 2005 7:28:40 PM
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He apparently thought he was special.

Learn the rules so you can break them properly.
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Reply #8 May 6, 2005 7:32:53 PM
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Oh come on. They both appear to be military. They knew there was a way for him to receive the call.

I would have become angry and abusive too.


Prior to explaining the call and seeing if they cut you slack? Oh do you just fly off the handle because what you want is more important?
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Reply #9 May 6, 2005 7:57:20 PM
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Personally....In this case I don't give a damn what the school rules are...the kids mother is in Iraq putting her life on the line for a lie. He should be allowed to complete his call. Period. I don't think I would have acted any differently than the kid did. I think its absolutely pathetic to suspend him from school for this.
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Reply #10 May 6, 2005 8:23:12 PM
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cool. lets blame the school. or society for that matter.
don't blame the kid who gets rude and abusive, let's all just pat self centered people on the back and make way for them.

did the school know who he was talking to when they asked him to stop?
no
did he explain?
NO

he's the one who acted inappropriately and he's the only one to blame. anything else is just more bleeding heart rationalization

i think he should get another 2 weeks for causing all the media attention
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Reply #11 May 6, 2005 8:32:17 PM
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"Kevin got defiant and disorderly," Parham said. "When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days."

What's the issue?

A brat is a brat...if his mother is in Iraq...so what?  A lot of people's family members are there too....he's neither special, nor above the law.

Get a grip, people.  This isn't worthy of hysterics....

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Reply #12 May 6, 2005 8:38:31 PM
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"Kevin got defiant and disorderly," Parham said. "When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days."

What's the issue?

A brat is a brat...if his mother is in Iraq...so what? A lot of people's family members are there too....he's neither special, nor above the law.

Get a grip, people. This isn't worthy of hysterics....


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Reply #13 May 6, 2005 9:28:11 PM
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Somewhere along the way, some kids and adults just haven't learned how to deal with situations. If had simply paused a moment and explained what was going on and asked if he could talk a bit longer or something, perhaps he would have been able to. Even if he wasn't allowed, he could have informed his mother that he couldn't talk right now. I know its difficult to reach loved ones due to the time difference, but I agree that rules aren't made to have exceptions. You make one exception you have to make more.
It sounds like the kids let a small situation escalate into something bigger than it needed to be.

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Reply #14 May 6, 2005 9:48:44 PM
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What ever happend to detention though? Sure the kid is out of order, but I've never heard of suspentions for anything less than a fight. I can't say I wouldn't fly off the handle too though... I recently came home from Iraq and can relate to the situation. It's not easy to make a call out there to say the least.
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Reply #15 May 6, 2005 10:14:52 PM
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I think if he played it cool instead of being a foul mouth brat, they might of left him get away with it. He just screwed it up for himself by coping a attitude.
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Reply #16 May 6, 2005 11:47:34 PM
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What ever happend to detention though? Sure the kid is out of order, but I've never heard of suspentions for anything less than a fight.


For one, I think this is a military school, so discipline may be heavier there. Also, after reading the PDF, that kid isn't the only kid in that school with family in Iraq, he should not expect to be treated different from the other kids. And lastly, it says he used profanity to the teacher and to the principal; that alone is a reason for suspension in a lot of schools. I am a teacher and I got a student suspended for calling me names recently. The phone call isn't the reason for his suspension, but the irrespecful way he reacted.
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Reply #17 May 7, 2005 12:51:51 AM
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Yeah... I missed the fact that it's a military school. He got exatly what was coming to him. They understood his situation better than a public school, and WOULD'VE been easy on him...
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