Styl: You have to remember that people are subjective creatures. Your attitude has a lot to do with whether people will download your work. If you come across as a bighead a lot of people will ignore your work.

Green is ok but it should really be gray....

both images look great...

TasT thinks that everyone should stop fussin and get back to finishin' the skin.....

styl .. the best way to drive off a consumor/user is to be arrogant...ive seen really talentd skinners never get a chance because they were rude,cocky, or just plain full of themselves ... not to mention .. other skinners here colaborate to make skins.. u will find your invites to join such groups,far and few if you are percieved as "hard to work with" or "arrogant".
remember theres many here that have been skinning for years and built reps that are untouchable.. to come off as "hey ur stufs ok but can you handle this ?" is not only boastful but can be seen as an insult. there are a few here who helped start the skinning craze many years ago, long before Builder blinds/W.B. or WC was around...
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To me this is 3D:




and this is flat:





For the 'flat' example, em's Meditation Windowblinds is really flat and the Rainlender calender skin Rewind_Smooth is what I would say is a skin that looks like it is 3D


Now, can someone make a 3D skin? I think a good example is Mindless Puppet's WB skin. Can someone make a 1D skin? Essorant can. He makes some awesome 1D skins. Better than 2D or 3D.

What about photo realistic skins? I would like to see more of that. I have nothing planned on my table of skins for a photo realistic skin.





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HG, I understand your point but I don't agree with it. I find it hard to accept that just because a skinner has a reputation means that he is 'untouchable'. Also attitude dasn't have anything to do with the quality of graphics. Do you really think clients will stop comming to me because some may find my attitude "arrogant"? And besides, not being a client of me I don't think you could judge me as hard to work with. The only thing that makes a design studio easy or hard to work with is their capability to stick to the death lines and the quality they deliver. So far so good.

For users something else counts but as you might have noticed, I haven't been an active skinner on the side of free skins for the last 6-7 months or so... probably longer. This is also why I havent builded a 'reputation', and to be honest, I don't really care for a reputation. If I did, I wouldn't have opened my mouth at this time and just do what all the others do.

Only a death fish go's with the stream.
-unknown but certainly true.

I always wanted to do design work that was other then the current WB skinning companies. Ofcourse I know I am not the topskinner on the planet or something but I can see, and I hear, that I deliver a fairly good quility of work. That compared with a fairly good price is a good working formula for business. (We, 2 designers, 1 coder and me, have a waiting list of 2 weeks now... that should say enough.) But then again, to say that I probably have to be arrogant

Arrogance will get you no where, especially with paying customers, no matter how good your product. In my world I am as nice and curtious as possible to customers. Our products are not necessities and are priced in the luxury catagory ( though much lower than the nearest competition).

We design, build, tool and cover motorcycle seats. We've been doing it localy for quite a while and have a excellent rep, but we have lost customers to what I call artistic differences. Which is a nice way of saying that neither myself or my partner could get along with the customer long enough to get the seat or whatever done.

This doesn't happpen often, but what does happen quite often is that we get customers that have been to a shop across town where the owner is brash, a little arrogant and some say worse. We cost more, take longer and are generally backed up a few days, but some of the customers would rather wait than put up with his Attitude.

Maybe we should take this back to where jafo suggested this thread as just being a simple self promotion. Cause thats all it is. A free attempt at using WC's messageboards to gain some work.

TasT thinks we should let him run all his business away.

The more people read words like arrogance in association with a person the less likely they will be to purchase that persons product....

no arrogance is not stateing you have work. arrogance is coming here stateing that everybodys works look to Photoshopish and that none has ever thought of tryin 3D, other than a simple bevel..like its a new concept or something ..im sorry but a few of doodle bugs skins are more 3D than what ive seen posted here in this thread .. and like its been said they were made with PSP.. not a 3D program.. not to mention they have been out for about 4 years now ? so no 3d is not a new concept at all...

oh and Renato/Dangeruss/Thredzs/Tech13 are in my opinion a few of the skinners who are untouchable.. meaning their reputations in the skinning community are unsurpassed.


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Yep, seen that one, 3d if you ask me, but it lacks the newer functions

exactly paxx.... it's very 3D and it looks good .. i cant see how any body could say no ones ever tried anything more than a few beveled edges..

It's strange to me when a skinner talks about how everyones stuff is flat and not 3D, and yet they don't show us how it is suppose to look.

If it is a noob, then we can just ignore them. But, when it is a skinner, who seems to be slamming everyone elses work, it makes me wonder.

ur world is flat .. and all ur bases are mine !!!!!