tjesterb

Join Date 12/2003

Hard drive migration help

I recently got a new HDD. I hooked it up as a slave and used Drive Image 7.0 to copy my drive C to the E partition on the new drive using the app included to clone your drive, OS and all to a new one. I ed to make the E drive bootable, according to the directions, as well. I then switched the jumper on the new drive to the Master setting, hooked up the Master IDE cable to it and tried to boot up from the new drive. However that isn't working. I entered the BIOS and confirmed that it is recognizing the new drive as the Master. How do I boot from the new drive? I want to put the old drive in a USB case and use it as portable storage.

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Hmmm, did similar with mine. Backed up C: to a new partition. The added a new drive, changed jumpers on the old to slave. Then used the DI 7 recovery environment (boot from disc) to do a restore to the new drive. Worked perfectly

. The only thing with that is to make sure your new drive is equal or larger in size, to the original drive.

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Who is the manufacturer of the new drive?

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Jafo

Join Date 03/2001

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Sounds like a corruption of some sort.

I recently did the same thing...ending up with a full backup bootable OS....only time I had any trouble was when swapping and booting with BOTH connected.....both were primary...one on the Primary IDE [the actual boot] and one on the secondary IDE [second boot]....I think it was down to the fact the system was a wee bit confused to have two 'partitions' with identical info.

The problem was in opening a file manager....everything just sat there scratching its head.....however I'm currently running with both attached....C drive and D drive are both bootable OS systems [XP Pro]....and since the 2 of them are in caddies I can switch to either or both in the time it takes to shutdown and reboot.

When I did all this I partitioned and formatted the 'D' via the original OS.....then ran Drive Image 7 ....took about 6 minutes to back up and about 8 to restore to the new one....about 6 gig of data in a 20 gig partition.

Interestingly, XP Activation appears to be happy with both....[which always had me wondering]....

The plan is to make complete 'backups' periodically so the second drive is up to date and can be used if the primary has a terminal episode.

Work data is on a third physical drive and has redundancy backups to alternate partitions on the OS drives...updated daily.

Data such as proggy skins, Litestep themes...created and modded within the OS drive's standard program Files layout are also redundantly backed up to separate physical drives.

All you need then is a weekly data off-take to CD and you're laughing.

There's no excuse for losing work....

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copy my drive C to the E partition on the new

Why did you have the new drive partitioned? Maybe try wiping it off and do a clone on a "bare" drive. Are you sure you did a clone and not a backup? (Which would be compressed, hence unbootable) Just a thought.

BTW, what kind of message/screen do you get when trying to boot?

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Jafo

Join Date 03/2001

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bordfryr....it's referred to as a backup...and it's compressed....but restoring it decompresses it as well.

EG...my backup of a 20 gig drive...currently called 'C_Drive021.v2i' [it's the 21st backup] is 3.8 gig.....and that's default compression....there is a 'stronger' level....

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questions:

do you have both drives installed?

if both drives are installed is it automatically booting from the origional drive?

if it does, if you load Administrative Tools does it show both drives and are the partitions *active* ( you might have to IMPORT the Drive into your drive tables for the OS even if it does show up in the list )

if they are, have you tried booting with only one drive installed *the new one*

if you did, did it post, see the drive, then display bios/cmos settings *ide device found int:13 yada yada yada

if so, did it give you any kind of error about *ROMBIOS* or the *OS* not being found

if not, where does it puke exactly? *BootScreen shows and hangs and so on?*

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Fuzy, I did try using the PQRE but wasn't able to open new drive that way,and I made sure the new partition is larger than my C drive. Jafo may be right, the copy may have gotten corrupted somehow.
Yrag, it's Western Digital
I partitioned the drive so that I can install a Linux OS on the second partition for a dual-boot set-up. Would I be better off to wipe the new drive and copy the original drive to that, then let the Linux installer do the partitioning?
BTW, I'm moving from a 40G to an 80G, with about 25G worth of data on the original.
Thanks for all the responses, I think I may have to start over on this one.

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Sorry, IP, I was typing while you posted. It doesn't boot at all, just craps out after the BIOS screen. It tries for a couple minutes and then times out and says to install the proper boot device.

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CerebroJD

Join Date 01/2003

Are both drives configured for the same filing system? i.e. Fat32 or NTFS?

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mm, silly question, are both drives installed and if so, are two drives set with the Master Jumper enabled?

also, have you checked to make sure the cables connectors are seated completely?

on the hard drive ribbon and the floppy ribbon cables... that is

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http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp Download Data Lifeguard and format the entire new drive...copy files (using the same floppy) from old drive to new. Now boot up on new drive and then partition it for Linux. You want to do both operations in DOS, so boot to the floppy.

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mmmm, seems to me the drive(s) were lost from two possible issue...

When originally doing the back up they worked.

When physically changing the jumpers and possibly the order of the drives on the cable or removing one completely when the slave was changed to Master.

Things were moved about inside the box.

Lending the checking of, jumpers, cables being seated on the drives and also because of a dealing with ribbons and not having a huge amount of room floppy cables can get shifted. I've run into it more than one time where the floppy cable was either upside down or not seated and it would cause the system to not see the drives because they both (hard drive and floppy run off the rail and address the buse controller, int 11, int 13 and int 15)...

or it is/was a software issue...

seems to me that removing a jumper conflict or a cable issue would be first and for most in the process.

probably way off the mark with the above...

the other thing I would be checking would be to set the drives back up as they were when the back up was made and make sure the second drive it Imported into the drive tables of the NT OS. Just because they show up does not mean they will be usable. If they are not then they would show up and when you right clicked on the drive in the Admin Tools you would see that it is a Foreign Partition and or Drive with the option to import it.

I'll be mum now...

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CerebroJD

Join Date 01/2003

Ok...I'll be dad

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did you take out the trash? oh and my mother is coming to stay with us for a month, Mary needs Braces and Bobby wears Marys undies when he thinks no noe is looking.

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CerebroJD

Join Date 01/2003

*grabs beer*

"I'll take out the garbage when I go to see Mistress China *cough* I mean, when I go to work tommorow"

*heads for computer*

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Jafo

Join Date 03/2001

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yrag...DI7 is capable of transferring an OS without dramas...from within Windows and therefore much more efficiently.

There 'shouldn't' be a need to get additional proggies to do it when DI7 is such a competent master of it...

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CerebroJD

Join Date 01/2003

from within Windows and therefore much more efficiently

Isnt that an oxymoron?

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Jafo

Join Date 03/2001

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Cerebro...try doing things in lower memory in Dos....640k gets you nowhere fast.

With a Gig of DDR3200 400fsb in parallel [800 thruput] you may just find a slight improvement over Dos....

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CerebroJD

Join Date 01/2003

Ahh....gotcha.

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19 by Admin Jafo - 7/27/2004 9:50:12 PM ...try doing things in lower memory in Dos....640k gets you nowhere fast.

Gee. Paul...I transfer 12/13 GB to my backup drive just shy of 20 minutes...in DOS ...and I get all the files copied, including the Volume Files

yrag thinks there must be a clog in that Aussie DOS

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Jafo

Join Date 03/2001

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20 gig partition...all complete...from boot descriptor to System Volume Information....written in 8 minutes...no errors...

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Jafo

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Difference is I can do one while still working within the OS...

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Jafo

Join Date 03/2001

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Forgot....I don't need a Dos NTFS reader to do it either...

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OK...OK...so I'm old fashioned and still like writing DOS commands....so shoot me already

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