So how do your colleagues feel about these two?

Supervisors were constantly cursing me, trying to provoke me. They would just deny it. Those who witnessed it, were afraid for their jobs. So, they wouldn't talk.

Exactly...

I most certainly do not want to fight... but I can't let this just go away. I have to say something. what if he does it to someone else? what about the drunk guy? what if he hurts someone? What if they hurt me?

No, I fight.

The one mistake I did make was staying. I should have tried to quit on good terms somehow.

digital voice recorders

I even got one of those myself too. It caused even more trouble when my supervisors knew I had one. It made them more hostile. Unfortunately before one of their cursing escapades I couldn't get the turn thing to work right. It ate the tape just before the event happened.

formally notify your local Police department of your boss's behaviour

My Police Department told me that this was an employment matter and best handled by my Union. They said they wouldn't come out and go through the finger pointings and the he saids, she saids. Even after I was assaulted the police said it was a union/personnel matter. I can imagine how hostile the situation would have become if the personnel department found out that I had the Police come to the facility.

When in doubt....leave. Life, carreer, etc is not worth the BS perpetrated upon you by a third party

My point exactly. This is my advice too. From someone, who you can see, has gone through, and is going through worse as a result of having stayed.

If you stay and fight, it will get worse. And, you will be terminated. Then, your career will be effected and your salary potential. What top notch job is going to want to hire someone who was terminated and from their prospective, a trouble maker? I had to take a serious salary cut just to get a chance. I found a company who was willing to give me a chance because of my extensive background, and it has been much better. But, a cloud still hangs over my head, because they know. You have to tell them too. If they find out, you will be terminated immediately for concealing information about prior employment.

If you stay and be quiet, you may survive and maybe they may even eventually leave you alone because it is useless fighting with someone who doesn't respond. But, that may take a long time. You will become their dog. The dog for them to kick when they feel the need. And maybe they will start to look at their own behavior in treating someone so badly who does nothing to them.

Your final choice.. get out. Find another job with the same/better salary and a better working environment. When you are asked about the previous job, you can just say that you like the opportunity that this new job offers. Unforunately, that wasn't my choice.

It doesnt.

JTB, listen to Chas, let it go and get out! This job almost killed you before and now you're being physically intimidated by your bosses, what job is worth that?
I understand wanting to fight, but first you have to take care of yourself. Sometimes you just have to remove yourself from a situation. Get yourself some peace and get out! You'll thank yourself later. [ and Chas, of course
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Thanks guys for the ideas and support. I am still trying to figure out what to do.

If I challenged him to that then I would loose because I do not know how to play.

Anyway, an update on this situation will be coming soon... I really that you guys for your ideas. It helped allot.

Justtheblow,

Pssst Roger.....It's joetheblow

Well, good news or bad I guess, I am going to meet with my manager on Friday... Noon to be precise.

So, I have written an outline of questions I have and statements I might have to make]. I am also bringing a note pad for taking notes.

They are probably going to fire me on Friday because I spoke to the client about his Directors behavior (why did I do that? because I learned quite fast that I could not trust the manager and his boss, the Senior manager about issues like this). So I took it to the only person I would hope would clear the situation... the clients boss.

Basically, they are going to try to put me on trial on Friday. I might let them, but then again if they 'open a door' for me to walk through I will tell it like it is. For me, this meeting is to get my questions solved.

It is not looking to good for my company... they made some very big errors.

Best of luck JTB, I guess you choose option 1.

So MGiff, are you going to hire him? I think I read that you have family who will help you, JTB. You are lucky. I don't have any family anymore. So, being proud would mean, jobless and homeless for me.

Talking about it to others at work or anyone you work with, only makes it worse for you.

Remember?

I've been through this before, my friend. I had supervisors swinging their arms in my face trying to get me to fight them, right in front of the directors window. The director even admitted that he saw what this supervisor was doing. Nothing matters except your reaction when you are the target. Then you are said to be paranoid. I'm not making this up, a Judge actually said it about me in this situation. The courts later removed him from my case. See what I mean, its a real tough situation.

Your best option at this point is too completely humble yourself. But, you probably won't do this. This is what I do now. When you are smart, some people feel threatened and try to attack you. If you humble yourself, they have to look at themselves because you are giving them no ammunition. If you give them ammunition, its bye bye.

The trick, a lot of the time, is to avoid confrontation before it happens. If you see someone doing something totally wrong, sometimes its best not to say anything to them, unless you are their supervisor.
If you tell their supervisor then you are being a tattle tale, and hatred from this person and even anger, from your supervisor, towards you may result.

When someone tries to get a confrontation with me, the best satisfaction I get is when they walk away with a deflated look on their face. I get this look a lot at work even now. When I do a good job afterwards and I win best employee of the month, this is double satisfaction. Fighters rarely win best employee. It depends on where you want to be in the job market. Its a tough world out there. You have to learn how to survive.