I may have a rather 'limited' outlook....I don't judge by border....I happen to have an intense dislike for my next door neighbor....not because of race, sexual orientation, color of skin or language or religion.....and certainly not because of an imaginary line called a 'border'....I don't like them because they exhibit a total lack of consideration for each other, their pets and anyone else within eye or earshot. They're unlikeable...because of what they do as individuals.

This world has gotten too small. It's so easy to throw a blanket description over a population and write them off as a group.......

I won't do it.

I don't like what I've seen of Moore as a person. I find his comments inciteful and abrasive. For all the peace he preaches his demeanor is one of invitation to a fight. His presentation embodies conflict. He strikes me as obnoxious, bigoted and self centered.

But that doesn't necessarily mean all of his work is worthless.

Frankly I don't care for that type of film...nor have I seen his Columbine documentary.

I don't give a damn for his opinion because I find him physically repulsive and just don't want to look at him much less listen to his biased view on anything.

PixelCargo - If you're referring to conservative politicians using the media to spread fear to make us Americans all puppets, then they are not doing a very good job of it. Most of the American media is overtly liberal - CNN, MSNBC, NPR, NBC, CBS, ABC, New York Times, LA Times, Washington Post, etc., etc. All have little to no conservative voices spreading "fear" or pulling our strings. In fact, most of these media outlets focus solely on this administrations failures and rarely (if ever) on it's successes. Now I'm sure there are those that will respond with "well thats because this administration has no successes" - to that I say, who's trying to pull my strings now! I think most Americans, myself included, know better than to subscribe to the rhetoric of extremists on either side of the fence. I fail to see how the left expects to earn points with American moderates while people like Moore tour Europe giving speeches about how Americans are all stupid and ignorant.....good luck with that!


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Speaking of Canadians, has anyone seen that show "Talking to Americans", hosted by Rick Mercer? (He's just an all 'round funny guy!)

Americans....It's really amazing that we haven't killed off each other sometimes. The are so many different lifestyles, cultures and beliefs here. There are parts of the country that one person would never set foot in, while another will flourish and live there to the end. Maybe the differences here aren't as extreme as some portray, when you look at other countries where people are committing genocide to eradicate their fellow citizens who are different. I'll say this and I agree with the international community that we Americans as a nation tend to come off as arrogant, maybe that's all that binds us together as a nation, that and pissing us off tends to bring us together, I don't know....I have a problem with individuals like Michael Moore that preach hate and try to divide us. It doesn't matter whether his views are based in fantasy or reality, fact or fiction, it's how he goes about it. I'll never ever in my life waste a minute of my time for him, my time here is too short for that.

Just an informal poll here.... I'm guessing, could be way off base here, the conservative folks, people that generally lean towards the right, possibly republicans and that sort are 30ish and older and the liberal folks, people that generally lean towards the left, possibly democrats and that sort are 30ish and younger.

I'm 41, conservative

The reason I'm asking is I think through US later 20th century history you see a pendulum swing in attitudes from liberal to conservative and back again, and I think how you are is what politics you were exposed to in your teens and early twenties. For me that would be Carter and Reagan.
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A critique of Moore's film by one of those alleged "liberal" media outlets, Newsweek via msnbc.com: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5335853/site/newsweek/site/newsweek/

Essencay: my own experience often suggests the opposite...some of the most "conservative" people I know are younger folks. Of course at 41 you qualify as one of the youngins from my perspective.

who here really questions the why of terrorism in the end?

who questions why they seem to hate the USA so much?

who here honestly does not understand or totally accepts that it is ok that we've been messing around in their region, supporting dictators, training terrorists, sell WDM's and funding revolts as our leaders here at home dictated?

who here does not understand that the same CIA everyone wants to point their finger at for allowing 9/11 is the same exact CIA and Intelligence Community which is a large part of the issues at the nexus of Terrorism?

disclaim it, whine, scream shout and stomp your feet, hell throw your teddy in the corner as you will, but it will not change those facts.

this whole thing about freeing Iraq is a load of crap, just one of 23 or 24 different reasons for going into Iraq that has been tossed out to the public as each one sours and a new is needed.

we went into Afghanistan to destroy the Terrorists and to end Bin Ladens ability to continue. We are still there to some extent failing totally to do what we went in there for. But you know what the reason has been since the failure to do what was claimed? We went in to free Afghanis people and Afghanistan form the Tali ban.

well guess what, the Tali ban still fight on and they still go in and take over towns and cities, troops are still dying and the Tali ban still kill civilians as they like. We hear crap about Afghanistan anymore, it is as if no one cares. We pulled out our resources and left some troops to do something that should be done by those still there along with each and every single troop and resource that was diverted to Iraq.

so tell me again, why did we go into Iraq?

oh wait

why did we go into Afghanistan?

Iran is next...

if given the chance...

then maybe Syria..

IPlural: Sometimes the people actually doing the murdering are at fault.

Blaming the US or the CIA or any other organization for the murderous behavior of the terrorists is akin to blaming society for the actions of a serial killer.

I do not condone terrorism in any way shape or form. But, Mrs. Footsie is right. Until we accept some responsibility for our actions, selling of weaponry, biologic and chemical agents, including what we sold to Saddam, providing intelligence to those in power when it suited us, then abandoning them when we tire of them, manipulating governments, etc. Until we accept responsibility for a host of manipulating actions we perpetrated over in the mideast and elsewhere, this war will go on and on and on.

Another thing....... This war on terror is so misguided. Terror is the weapon they are using. It's like having a war on cannons or a war on rifles. Until we recognize who "they" really are, and make some attempts to reconcile some differences, at least TRY, we've already lost the war.

For what it's worth, I'm 53 years old. I'm very liberal, very progressive, very much in favor of single payer health care, socialized education, and doing in the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries. They are crooks, and I'm so freakin' sick of the bailouts they are getting by the Bushies. Makes me wanna puke.

Geez....... I can go on and on..........

What if the Iraqies put Saddam back in power? Damn, would that look bad on America or what?!

I don't find your brand of humor funny Satans Child

Do you?........really?.....think it would be FUNNY???? >

I wonder if the people he murdered and the ones that were tortured and had their limbs violently would find it funny......?????

Do you ever stop to think or do you just find wanton random chaos riotously amusing???? > >

*sigh*
Hussein was just the CIA's puppet, and they were tired of him so they decided to remove him. Now they placed a new regime there in place. Wonder how long it will take before they get tired of that one... Probably until it bites the hand that feeds it, the way the Hussein regime did.