The problem is ongoing and sadly will not change any time soon.
Some people either A- do not rate at all or B- do not leave comments at all.
I have been a culprit of the "no comment" myself. If I download something and do not like it I will not leave a comment but I will also not rate it. I am a firm believer in that if you rate you should comment and visa versa if you chose.

The only sure way to get a good read on how others view your work is to submit it to www.skinartistry.com . Other skinners will review the skin and give you completely honest feedback. Otherwise all your gonna get is the usual oooh's and aaah's as well as the trollish comments. I urge you to submit the skins in question for review. In the end you will have all the answers you want. Do not wait for the general public to give feedback because it probably won't happen. As hard as it is you have to just ignore the ratings. Sometimes they are accurate and sometimes they are not. The mods have explained to me how the ratings work and I believe that the system that is place is pretty fair and they have put quite alot of thought into it.

Hi, TYBSP....I don't know which thread you are refering to....a link to it would be helpful for all. If it was my post in this thread https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WC&id=281010 Thanks I'm glad that someone sees that scale as reasonable ratings explanations. If it wasn't, I'll go deflate my swelled head right now

There is also a plead from Macrobaye https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WC&id=264739 asking members with the capability to rate...to rate and comment.

TYBSP, this has been the never-ending-ongoing-issue of all times.
Basically it breaks down to 2 groups
1- Those that download, use, comment and rate (fairly) and
2- Those that rate without knowledge on what they are doing (Most of the time with the intention of lowering the ratings)
A work with a 10 rating after three scores means 3 people gave it a 10, but if the work shows an 8 rating after a forth score, means a forth person gave it a 2
You can always contact an admin and have them check if in fact an unfair low rating was granted to your work. The can remove the rating and keep an eye on the person rating low.

Jafo beat me to the punch line




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One of the [for me] eagerly awaited features of Wincustomize 2005 will be a 'weighting system' for ratings which simply means that the 'more experienced' members of the site will have a bigger influence over the resulting averaged rating.

What this simplisticly does is make it less likely that a casual 'novice' to the skinning world will not unduly 'mangle' a skin's rating through inexperience or mean intent, or both...

That sounds reasonable Jafo.
It would seem that the required 4 or 5 member level is in place for the same reason but that doesn’t stop anyone from buying a few programs and then being able to vote. Heck, that’s basically how I became able to rate others.

Another way would be to only allow ratings from those who have created a few skins. At least then the rating would be backed up by hands on skin development. A rating from someone who only bases it on how it looks is not as valid as one based on knowledge of skinstudio, graphics, and how to combine them. It would also eliminate many trolls from rating.

I don't like the idea of limiting rating to only those who create skins. There are many of us who do not possess the skills to create skins but enjoy using them and feel qualified to rate and comment on skins.
For myself, when I rate a skin I will provide a comment if I rate it lower than 6. Usually though I choose not to rate if I am unhappy with the skin and merely provide a comment with the issues I have with it.
I do think some people don't choose ratings that fit, however of course ratings are subjective. Not everyone is going to like the same skins so I don't think one bad rating necessarily means someone is undermining your rating.
However the update that weights rates based on tenure seems a plausible thing to combat those who might choose to be malicious.

Actually ToeJo, If a person is willing to rate a skin with more than a "I just dont like it" attitude, I would be willing to accept the rating if it is accompanied by an intellegent comment as to why a person rates a skin low.

I like the ideas of Essencay in the thread here https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WC&id=281010#281673 where he discusses some reasonable criteria for rating skins. I guess the reason I said that only skinners should rate is because they are more qualified to determine if a person put the extra work into a particular aspect of a skin than a non skinner. Sure, a non skinner can determine if a lot of work was put into a skin or not, but they would still not understand the little details it takes to make a skin work and weather or not the skinner put extra work into those details or not.

I guess it all comes down to weather or not the person rating a skin is seriously trying to use their brain to rate or just being a troll. And the major issue is, if your going to rate a skin, take the time to comment on why you rate the way you do.

As an amatuer skinner, I appreciate the constructive comments because they help me improve. But it is a real boost when you get rave reviews also. So I guess comments are nice to have weather a person rates high or low. Either way ppl should LEAVE A COMMENT WITH YOUR RATING PLEASE!!!

As you quoted in the above message ToeJo, ratings based soley on looks can be mere opinions and preferences. Ratings based on the criteria that Essencay mentioned are more accurate. IMHO

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