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Has anyone ever heard of this?

May 16, 2004 2:56:48 AM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
http://best-oem-sellers.biz/

It is a website that sells the top brands of soe software for like really low prices.

But are they legit?
Has anyone delt with them before?

Does anyone know of a way to find out about these companies before you hand over credit card information?
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Reply #1 May 16, 2004 3:14:46 AM
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Looks ''''fishy'''' to me...

I dont see any sort of VeriSign logo denoting ''''legitimacy'''' on the ''''buy now'''' page...
I cant see how they give out products such as Photoshop CS, Flash, and 3dsMax for the prices they list...

Unlike retailers, we do not sell software in a fancy box, with printed documentation, etc., meaning we do not shell out on CD manufacturing. The software itself is only what you get - available for download right after purchase!"


I dunno...
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Reply #2 May 16, 2004 3:16:59 AM
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I keep getting spam about software being sold at very "reasonable" prices.

If they bother to send you anything, it's most likely cracked. Maybe even boxed, but still cracked.
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Reply #3 May 16, 2004 3:22:27 AM
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If in doubt go to BBB.org (Better Business Bureau) and query them. Don't rush into something like that! >
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Reply #4 May 16, 2004 3:26:13 AM
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It's a re-direct, stay away from them. This is their real addy: QBlrcUSLu58J:best-oem-sellers.biz/
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Reply #5 May 16, 2004 3:27:43 AM
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This is their real addy: QBlrcUSLu58J:best-oem-sellers.biz/


EventHorizon wonders how yrag knew that...
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Reply #6 May 16, 2004 3:30:41 AM
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yrag knows all

Joe if you're lookin' for something to get a price on or just what a reliable source then try here: https://www.bizrate.com/
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Reply #7 May 16, 2004 9:03:22 AM
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Anybody who claims to sell "Microsoft Windows XP Longhorn" is full of crap...
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Reply #8 May 16, 2004 9:10:09 AM
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Domain Name:                                 BEST-OEM-SELLERS.BIZ
Domain ID:                                   D6255614-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar:                        DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
Domain Status:                               ok
Registrant ID:                               DI_294529
Registrant Name:                             Mika Lee Chung
Registrant Organization:                     CN PROSPECTS UNDO LLC.
Registrant Address1:                         jhueng str, 3/4, apt. 489
Registrant City:                             Katoma
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Registrant Country:                          China
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Registrant Phone Number:                     +99.8392894626
Registrant Email:                            whoi3emeng16@mail.com.cn
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Administrative Contact Name:                 Mika Lee Chung
Administrative Contact Organization:         CN PROSPECTS UNDO LLC.
Administrative Contact Address1:             jhueng str, 3/4, apt. 489
Administrative Contact City:                 Katoma
Administrative Contact Postal Code:          dsk346qbx
Administrative Contact Country:              China
Administrative Contact Country Code:         CN
Administrative Contact Phone Number:         +99.8392894626
Administrative Contact Email:                whoi3emeng16@mail.com.cn
Billing Contact ID:                          DI_294529
Billing Contact Name:                        Mika Lee Chung
Billing Contact Organization:                CN PROSPECTS UNDO LLC.
Billing Contact Address1:                    jhueng str, 3/4, apt. 489
Billing Contact City:                        Katoma
Billing Contact Postal Code:                 dsk346qbx
Billing Contact Country:                     China
Billing Contact Country Code:                CN
Billing Contact Phone Number:                +99.8392894626
Billing Contact Email:                       whoi3emeng16@mail.com.cn
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Technical Contact Name:                      Mika Lee Chung
Technical Contact Organization:              CN PROSPECTS UNDO LLC.
Technical Contact Address1:                  jhueng str, 3/4, apt. 489
Technical Contact City:                      Katoma
Technical Contact Postal Code:               dsk346qbx
Technical Contact Country:                   China
Technical Contact Country Code:              CN
Technical Contact Phone Number:              +99.8392894626
Technical Contact Email:                     whoi3emeng16@mail.com.cn
Name Server:                                 NS1.DRAGOKRIL.BIZ
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Created by Registrar:                        DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
Last Updated by Registrar:                   DIRECT INFORMATION PVT. LTD., (D.B.A. DIRECTI.COM)
Domain Registration Date:                    Wed Feb 11 14:57:38 GMT 2004
Domain Expiration Date:                      Thu Feb 10 23:59:59 GMT 2005
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Reply #9 May 16, 2004 9:36:20 AM
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Not only is the Longhorn a giveaway they are not legitimate, but Microsoft keeps a tight reign on OEM dealers. OEM software is sold at much reduced prices than retail, but only until some criteria has been met. Such as WindowsXP OEM can only be sold if you buy certain hardware at the same time, such as a hard drive, motherboard, etc.

These guys may give you what you buy, but I bet it is all pirated stuff.
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Reply #10 May 16, 2004 9:37:46 AM
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BTW can anyone tell me why my posting show up twice? I am using the SDC software, and it does not make sense to me. Cannot find any settings that may affect it.
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Reply #11 May 16, 2004 10:45:20 AM
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wow pax, where you got that from?
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Reply #12 May 16, 2004 11:50:38 AM
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Not sure how relevant this is, but this domain is on a few spam blacklists. That should be a red flag itself.
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Reply #13 May 16, 2004 12:11:57 PM
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Here's one place to get info like that:
http://www.arin.net/whois/index.html



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Reply #14 May 16, 2004 3:14:11 PM
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If it sounds too good to be true..it probably is.

It also looks like its some guy working out of his apt. in China.
Good look getting any tech support
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Reply #15 May 16, 2004 3:20:22 PM
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Thank's for the help guys. It looked fake, but what I really wanted to know is how do you tell if it is and you guys gave me the ammo to do that.

Thanks!!
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Reply #16 May 17, 2004 9:12:05 AM
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I've gotten emails about this stuff as well. Not sure how they do it but from what the email said you get no support...no warranties...no updates...your on your own.



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Reply #17 May 17, 2004 11:19:28 AM
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if they are claiming to sell longhorne, they''ve gotta be full of crap. however don''t always run away for something if it looks too good to be true. if you see a good deal online, best thing to do is to call the company.. you may be pleasently suprised to find they are a ''gray market'' store.. if there is no phone number then.. i''d be concerened.

by gray market, i mean this..: there are companys which operate entirelly on the internet, and are likely based outside of the U.S. they do things like package software as a CD only without packaging. being outside of U.S. consumer laws they can get away with selling things dirt cheap. they sometimes still include full manufacturer''s warrenties, and sometimes have customer support. there is some kind of rule, and i''m not sure exactly how it goes, but to sell merchandise in the U.S. you are required to have at least one physically store in the country. the thing to do is to call the company and ask them some questions to see if they are legit.. ask them if they have a place in the U.S. (if you are in the U.S.) and if they have returns policies or anything like that. you could also get their tax id number if you really wanted to be sure.

now since i always have a story to go along with such information:

my father recently bought a nikon camera from one of these ''grey market'' internet companies. he thoroughly researched this camera and the prices for them, and found a deal with this company. he was skeptical as well, so he called the company and they explained to him that they were in fact legal, but operated primarily off the net and were thus able to give such great prices. they satisfied him that they weren''t a ''fly by night'' place, and my father is as un-trusting as i am. he bought the camera, got it a couple days later, and has had no problems since. it even came with the manuf. warrenty.

so it might not be too good to be true, you just have to be careful and cover your bases
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