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Vertical taskbar...

April 18, 2004 3:35:12 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
Does anyone actually use it?
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Reply #1 April 18, 2004 3:59:47 PM
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I do. Sometimes, depending on the theme or the way I want to set my desktop
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Reply #2 April 18, 2004 4:30:37 PM
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Reply #3 April 18, 2004 5:18:37 PM
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I never use it either, but I still skin it anyway.
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Reply #4 April 18, 2004 6:02:35 PM
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I just hate having to turn my head at a 45 degree angle to read it.
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Reply #5 April 18, 2004 6:41:58 PM
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Ande, if you have to turn your head 45 degrees when using the vert taskbar, then you have some real monitor or video card problems
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Reply #6 April 18, 2004 10:07:16 PM
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@ A_67

I never use it either...

Reason I was asking was that Ive gotten 95% done with my GUIO submission...Only to find that the current start button (which looks more or less 'great' in the default position)...looks like crap when its put up on the Vert taskbar.

Looks like Ill have to re-do it...
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Reply #7 April 18, 2004 10:14:02 PM
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Another question...

In SkinStudio, theres a section under 'Tool Window Borders' called 'Titlebar Buttons - Classic'...

Would I be correct in assuming that these are the min/max/close buttons for the Tool Window Border?
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Reply #8 April 19, 2004 3:06:38 AM
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I don't get the 'Titlebar Buttons - Classic' when I start out a Uis2 skin. I get Tool Window - Close Button Image and Tool Window - Close Button Glyph.
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Reply #9 April 19, 2004 5:44:32 AM
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The buttons EventHorizon refers to show up if you open a new Universal Skin Format (USF) skin. And yes, they are the min/max/close buttons for the Tool Window.
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Reply #10 April 19, 2004 1:28:14 PM
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I've always used the taskbar on the left border. There are some really cool skins (copperdeck for example) that I can't use because of my eccentricity.



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Reply #11 April 19, 2004 1:33:32 PM
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#6 by Sir EventHorizon - Reason I was asking was that Ive gotten 95% done with my GUIO submission...Only to find that the current start button (which looks more or less 'great' in the default position)...looks like crap when its put up on the Vert taskbar.


EH - you could always make a vertical taskbar subskin and have 2 totally different designs of start button
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Reply #12 April 19, 2004 1:44:58 PM
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^ Do that! ^

I would try to keep your old design for the normal one, with a surprise for vertical taskbar users.
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Reply #13 April 19, 2004 1:58:16 PM
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this is a real pain....99% of the users doesn't use the vertical taskbar...but if you don't do it, the 1% will screem quicky.

I hate to make the vertical part, the only time I use it is just when I am setting it on a skin.

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Reply #14 April 19, 2004 2:02:02 PM
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Well, I won't scream, just pout quietly to myself and find a different one.



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Reply #15 April 19, 2004 2:23:25 PM
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....99% of the users doesn't use the vertical taskbar...but if you don't do it, the 1% will screem quicky.


That %age just about fits my experience with users of Windows in general.

I've never understood the wish to use it that way myself as the taskbar button text is horizontal, and so you either have to have it drastically truncated or give up a large section of one side of the screen. I suppose if you often have many different windows which would be identifiable from just their icon, then you could shrink the bar very narrow and then have more space for lots of different apps just one click away...sort of.

I do like the idea of having something very different for it - how about a graphic that says "Stop using windows like this, it's silly!"
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Reply #16 April 19, 2004 2:36:55 PM
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I don't enjoy skinning the verticle taskbar either (it's difficult to make it look good IMHO)........... heck I really don't care much about skinning the horizontal taskbar either. I find the Windows taskbar dysfunctional....   I much prefer setting up a taskbar the way I want it to work, using HvD or DX, etc... 



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Reply #17 April 19, 2004 2:45:52 PM
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@ Sput

I was thinking that too!
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Reply #18 April 19, 2004 3:32:49 PM
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Well, I guess, I'm part of the 1%. I frequently use the top and side taskbar. It's more functional of how I work.

The only time I use the bottom taskbar is for taking a screenshot of it.
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Reply #19 April 19, 2004 3:47:20 PM
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Z71....... My taskbar is always at the top of the screen, whether it be the Windows taskbar while skinning it, or whatever. I never have liked it on the bottom.



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Reply #20 April 19, 2004 4:13:38 PM
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I concur with Koasati on the position of the taskbar. It makes far more sense being on the top where most programs also place menus, etc. To place it on the side just takes up far more space than the horizontal taskbar. Perhaps once widescreens become more prevelent it will make sense to use a vertical taskbar, though by that time the taskbar may be passe.



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Reply #21 April 19, 2004 4:42:57 PM
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Thats what I like about Macs. The taskbar is at the top! Big plus for that feature.
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Reply #22 April 19, 2004 4:51:19 PM
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how about a graphic that says "Stop using windows like this, it's silly!"


Silly for you. Works quite well for me using autohide. As a matter of fact, I often set up a number of toolbars (not so much lately now I've built an ObjectBar that does what I want). If I have 3 or 4 (or more) toolbars showing on the taskbar, there is little room for tasks with a horizontal configuration. The whole point of Windows Customization is to be able to set things up as they work best for you. Otherwise we might as well stick to the classic GUI.

In the event this seems argumentative, it's not intended to be. Simply my opinion.



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Reply #23 April 19, 2004 9:39:39 PM
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"Stop using windows like this, it's silly!"


...I could animate the start button with a graphic that has Mime stick 'his' tongue out at you.

EH - you could always make a vertical taskbar subskin and have 2 totally different designs of start button


^ Do that! ^


And so I shall...

Thanks for the input.


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Reply #24 April 19, 2004 10:32:25 PM
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...I could animate the start button with a graphic that has Mime stick 'his' tongue out at you.


Heck, I'd use that!



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Reply #25 April 20, 2004 11:43:05 PM
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In the event this seems argumentative, it's not intended to be. Simply my opinion


...ditto for my joke about the vertical config calling it "silly". Good point on the auto hide...I get round the same issue by having 2 monitors, and all the extra toolbars go on the 2nd screen
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