well it seems to me that the root cause of the problem here is that the two sides here are approaching the issue from two different perspectives.

Michael is sticking to the letter of the law, and in this case both juni's and lonnies works are infringing on Microsoft's copyrights, hence both equally "wrong".

On the other hand, juni and jaffo are coming from the perspective that, while the images may not be original creations, the creativity and work put forth by juni should be respected. This postition may not have any basis in legality, but it seems to be a code of ethics that is followed, and accepted by, the general "skinning" community, and I can see where it is a good thing in encouraging and respecting the work of the skinners.

While, legally, Michael (and lonnie) may be perfectly correct, it does go against the accepted standards, and I think, will only hurt ppx in the long run, since it will discourage skinners from skinning for the program, if their work and time is not respected or protected.

#102 You get my vote

I vote it be locked and if a follow up is created to circumvent it, that also be locked while if a third is created the creator loses voice on the MSG-Brd.

do you need a third......BH got tired of it too

"and the fact that this thread has gone so far from Luni/lonnie makes me wonder what the true agenda of blarney and some of these others are? Wasn't it Luni/Lonnie that made the skins in Question?"

My agenda? My agenda is that I have both products (if you will.) I am a registered PPX customer and I have plenty of Juni skins. I fiddle with PPX every now and again, but Juni's today theme is on my iPAQ every day. I heard about this thread off BH when that thread was closed...so I am here to talk about it. That's about all there is to my agenda...

P.S. I've been a member of Wincustomize for probably a year now

PocketPC Addict should add these things too:

PlainSong:
"In what dreamworld are you in, to think that there is an understanding that any graphics posted on the web is ok to copy and redistribute without the author's permission."

Then this nice graphic: http://www.ppx3k.net/anyquestions.jpg

Then they should add that in no way did anyone associated with PPXSkins.com ever call Juni "scum" and there was never any personal attacks on Snoopsoft or Dashboard, too bad the converse cannot be said.

Who are the real bullies? I only came here to see why someone would have the nerve to complain to the cops about someone stealing their cocaine (the equivalent of) I never attacked anyone and neither has PPXSkins.com.

I think PPXSkins.com should remove those skins but on the basis that it was found that Juni violated a 3rd party copyright, so if he has a problem with them, that means Lonnie is in violation too. End of story.