In my opinion, I wouldn't put most of pixtudio's work on my desktop if someone paid me to do it. It's too much. Take a look at the work "Zippo" and please, don't tell me it's not over-saturing and lacking contrast. This is my point. The reason these people are getting hired by companies for graphic design work is because of the lack of originality to choose from.

I'm going to tell

hahaha, i read that quickly and thought it said "im going to hell"

oh yes, now, whenever we talk about new skins, now we say "better not make it look like bubbly *hit because we know how many people have the same mind as hellish. so we try not to make any more bubbly *hit skins to please those people. who cares if we like to make them, better not because some people are tired of them... <- i am speaking for all skinners.

im messin with ya hellish

hellish i appreciate how you've turned around to become proa-ctive, and productive for the cummunity.. please remember though how free this place is to express creativity and how many people have different levels of skills, tastes, and what is appropriate. i say this because many people are still hurt by the attitude you came at us with.. i can say the skinners here are a knit virtual group.. they stick up for each other's work in ways that most people, who know each other in physical life, don't. thus the backlash you'll get from many people. what am i getting at? you've backed up your opinion and your right to an opinion, so please move out of the 'dare to speak my mind' language and move on to the 'what can I do to make something I want' language, if only just to avoid setting off some hairy triggers

you might equate many skins here to the styles of video game players - whilst i get the impression you're more of a streamlined, simple, all-about-functionality-and-not-flash type of person. i'm the same way.. i take function over design and for that reason i've had the same basic object bar and dock on my desktop since day one. if i could skin, maybe you'd like my stuff. but i don't.. and since i know i'm one of a minority of people who like that design, i'm not suprised there are few things here i would use. but i won't lash at the artists here because the don't have my tastes.. what i see here is still far beyong anything i've seen elsewhere and i'm happy with what i have been able to get.

long story short i hope this is all over now and you'll find many people here are very skilled, and are great people to know.. you won't find that out though if you play the maverick just for kicks

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See no evil speak no evil hear no evil Just lurking

The reason I started skinning and playing around with the Windows XP GUI was to change the original commercial look of everything and give it something thats worth looking at

You have the right to state your opinion, that's fine. But no one owns the rights on TASTE
You should consider uploading a few of your own skins to the library(0 at the moment), and let us see your version of taste Or one better put a skin up in the GUI Contest





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"Take a look at the work "Zippo" and please, don't tell me it's not over-saturing and lacking contrast. This is my point. The reason these people are getting hired by companies for graphic design work is because of the lack of originality to choose from."

In a word, no.
Your point contradicts itself by implying Zippo falls into the 'unoriginal' bracket, then you say Pixtudio (And others similar) only get hired to create original things.
Skins offered here are for personal use only, not companies to pick and use as they like.
The reason skinners are hired by companies is to make custom tailor-made skins designed how the comapny wants it.

Anyhoo, if you do decide to try your hand at skinning, any stuff you release will be very welcome.
It's already clear that anything you may submit (Even if it's a first attempt) will likely not be the usual rehash of whatever fad is in at the moment. And the skinning scene definitely needs more people who can do that.
Good luck, and I'm actually looking forward to seeing how your ideas turn out.