*takes Peff's etcha-sketch and shakes it violently*

that'll teach you to go up against my solar calculator.

You mean we should stop getting paid well for doing art? That was an intelligent comeback. See once again you talk s**t, get called out on it and then have to attack what we do for a living as your lame attempt at a retort. And what do you do for a living?We've generated over a million and a half downloads from our skins here at Wincustomize while you have barely nicked 20k. So if you're going to attack how we do things or who we do them for make sure you're at least on par with us. It might validate what you say a tiny bit more. And most of our skins are done by one artist working on a particular skin and coded by Roman. Rarely do we have 2 artists working on a skin.. we're just too damn busy from all the work we get. Go figure.

Wow you are the most immature skinner I've seen on here. I haven't yet had to deal with someone like you, but I guess attacking one's credibility is your strong suit.

20,000 dls? Sure, but I'm just one person, and you've been a member for a helluva lot longer than I have.

Maybe you should look up the word "moderate" in the dictionary. Haha you can't even help yourself from swearing. Joke joke joke joke. That's such a joke.

huh? I'm supposed to "help" myself from swearing? haha. That's how i talk. In text, in person or on the phone. It's my nature.

As far as credibility goes you need to have "credibility" before your's can be attacked. Anyway you're getting boring. Waiting for the day when i can argue with some who actually has an intelligent retort.

Hey bakerstreet want to fight? You weren't always right when we used to flame each other but you were always extremely intelligent about it.

**grabs the popcorn** woohoo theatre butter !!!

Hey TSF, watch the low blows. You've gone beyond personal attacks here.

The swearing isn't a personal thing that we can do whenever we feel like it. This is a family site..I'm actually surprised I have to tell you that.

You're right about one thing, this is incredibly boring. So let's stop.

I appreciate your work, but you shouldn't care about millions of downloads...comments are what make the difference, and we both have a fair share of those.

I'm sorry for offending you, although I don't think that I have said anything personally attacking you. I would feel better about this whole thing if you would apologize as well. It would be in your best nature.

Thanks, sorry about "all this" or whatever, let's leave it at that.
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Well..Darn! Macrobaye bailed already.

Guess it's up to you, Auguste

The thread: One thing about me is i always stick up for my friends and i call a lot of people at Microsoft "friend".

The Swearing: I always bleep out my swear words with *'s so as not to offend young readers.

The Downloads: As far as caring about millions of downloads - of course i do. Believe it or not we're not in this just for the money. We want people to enjoy our work. If we were in it for the money only we wouldn't spend as much time on these as we do. Terminator 3 took the guys 8 weeks to do.

The End: I'm not going to apologize for standing up for something i believe in which came down to an unnecessary attack on a company protecting their intellectual property rights. Something all artists should take up arms about, no matter who it is. That kid Mike Rowe is now demanding 10k for the domain. That to me sounds like extortion. I hope they don't pay it because it sends the wrong message. They should buy it from for a fair price but for him to demand 10k is flat wrong since he knew exactly what he was doing.

But i never hold grudges. I'm cool if you are.

I wasn't asking you to apologize for defending MS, I was asking you to apologize for using derrogatory words against me...aka "personally attacking" me. That's not allowed here, and it's something I don't exactly enjoy receiving, if you know what I mean.

But yea I'm cool with the whole thing, let bygons be bygons, or whatever.

Check out my Message Board thread: https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WC&ID=240698

That site is a blast if you love movies.

That's because YOUR comments are stupid and out of place...like that one.

There is no need for you to use personal attacks in any rebuttal you provide.

I like cheese

I lowered my cholesterol!

I make MY money from Filmmaking and screenwriting. So far, only a few competitions and smaller film festivals, but I'll make it big...soon enough

You make your money off of film making which is an artform while you criticized TSF for making money from skinning.