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Which graphics card?

January 9, 2004 11:48:49 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
Do these high end graphics card make a big impact on your desktop? I mean, does a WB skin, Window FX or all Stardock products look different than what it does with my GeForce 2 card? If yes, then can anyone recommed a budget card that can achieve the experience?

Thanks vey much!
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Reply #1 January 9, 2004 11:54:32 PM
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ATI is the way to go right now. Most ATI cards outperform Nvidia Cards. The ATI 7000 is relatively cheap i believe.
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Reply #2 January 9, 2004 11:58:20 PM
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naw..don't waste your money on high end cards, unless your into gameing.
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Reply #3 January 10, 2004 12:00:17 AM
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I don't think the 7000 is a high end card at 50 bucks but it would be better for your various applicatiobs then a Nvidia card

(I think)
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Reply #4 January 10, 2004 12:01:14 AM
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heh you can edit now Kona?

Tip...when you edit you can get rid of older edits
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Reply #5 January 10, 2004 12:03:48 AM
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Reply #6 January 10, 2004 12:09:34 AM
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at $180.00 - 220.00 the FX 5800 Ultra is rated number one cost / performance in the video card shoot out that SPU magazine just published...

If your not into gaming then the PRO versions of any of the cards is over kill, but a fast GPU with 128 - 256 megs of DDR ram on it will make a big difference in digital art and 3d rendering...
The odd thing is, when you get into the really high end graphics design cards ATI doesn't come close to Matrox or nVidia $1000.00+ cards....
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Reply #7 January 10, 2004 12:13:36 AM
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IP: what about the ATI radeon 9800 XT? pretty sure it beats the Nvidia Cards.
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Reply #8 January 10, 2004 12:19:20 AM
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ATI 9800 doesn't come close to the FX 5950 Ultra

The testing and results are scaled by Performance and Price...
ATI is basically over priced when you consider yo are speaking of a difference of single digit discrepences...
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Reply #9 January 10, 2004 12:22:42 AM
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Still would not waste my money on nvidia crap. I will prove you wrong John ( in a friendly way.) off the find FPS benchmarks.
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Reply #10 January 10, 2004 12:24:19 AM
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but, if I can purchase a card that is one of last years top end cards for 1 3rd the price of todays top ender, I'll go with last years everytime
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Reply #11 January 10, 2004 12:25:05 AM
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I've got them right here, Like I said, I am reading the Computer PowerUser Magazine right now
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Reply #12 January 10, 2004 12:27:07 AM
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ATI Radeon 9800 : 3Dmark03: 2445
BFG FX 5950 : 3Dmark03: 2518
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Reply #13 January 10, 2004 12:27:24 AM
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http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-124-112&DEPA=1&sumit=property&catalog=48&mfrcode=0&propertycodevalue=4445,3676&keywords=&minprice=&maxprice=
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Reply #14 January 10, 2004 12:27:50 AM
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it goes abck and forth on different games and such, one tops the other, but when it all boils down, ATI doesnot hold anything over the FX Ultra really...

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Reply #15 January 10, 2004 12:29:36 AM
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it goes abck and forth on different games and such, one tops the other, but when it all boils down, ATI doesnot hold anything over the FX Ultra really...


the card in the link does....
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Reply #16 January 10, 2004 12:31:16 AM
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http://usa.asus.com/products/vga/v9980u/overview.htm

http://www.gainward.com/c.html
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Reply #17 January 10, 2004 12:33:20 AM
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no it doesn't... sorry

hell really doesn't matter...

I installed a 5700 Ultra last night and put a Viewsonic A90f UltraBrite true flat CRT on it and it is phenomanul...

Total price was $480.00 out the door, the freaking ATI Pro was $499.00...

you do the math...
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Reply #18 January 10, 2004 12:35:49 AM
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no it doesn't... sorry


You are telling me that your 256 meg card is better than a 512 meg card? no way.

Anyways, I hate nvidia and always will. To many driver problems and ATI customer support rocks.
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Reply #19 January 10, 2004 12:40:37 AM
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thats cool...

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Reply #20 January 10, 2004 12:42:41 AM
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#8 by IPlural - 1/10/2004 12:19:20 AM ATI 9800 doesn't come close to the FX 5950 Ultra


#14 by IPlural - 1/10/2004 12:27:50 AM it goes abck and forth on different games and such, one tops the other, but when it all boils down, ATI doesnot hold anything over the FX Ultra really...



Really? I can show you otherwise. Fact is, the 5950 came out after the 9800XT and the 9800XT still outperforms it. 9800XT is king when it comes to DX9, and in some areas the 9600 Pro outperformed the 5900 Ultra. How the hell can you say ATI doesn't hold anything to Nvidia? Overall performance is all ATI.

Deesh--what would be considered a budget card (price)?
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Reply #21 January 10, 2004 12:59:25 AM
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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Benchmarks (Nvidia is working with them)
*NOT DX9 render (should of shown a bigger difference)*















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Reply #22 January 10, 2004 1:02:40 AM
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Well considering ATI releases before everyone else, it would come out after it everytime along with everyone elses... deesh..
Also consider the fact that because ATI released to the market and developers with a DX9 card it would again follow ATI... deesh...

and what I was commenting upon was the higher end cards, not the little 9800 or the little 5950 but the workstation cards. ATI does not come close to nVidia *OR* Matrox in that class... deesh...



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Reply #23 January 10, 2004 1:06:47 AM
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Whats the bench on the ATI FireGL X2-256, Matrox G450MMS X4 and the Qadro FX1100 with nVidia NV36GL core?


oh and the Quadro FX 3000G

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Reply #24 January 10, 2004 1:11:01 AM
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not talking about playing games, talking about a graphics engine doing 3D design and animation, not DirectX9 file rates but manipulating large models (gemometric processing)....
kind of the same thing you used to get with the Number9 Graphics Engines back in the 80's for CAR Workstations...
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Reply #25 January 10, 2004 1:11:20 AM
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I was wrong.
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