Personally I think that the direction of this thread has just about hit it's point of diminishing returns.
On the question of the status quo of social grace and the ability of anything productive coming about from it.
Ya'll might be joking and you might not be, to me that makes no difference. But there are two points I would like to make after reading through this whole thread.
1.) Kona made a mistake in his presentation at DA and is learning somehting from it. Another part of the process in learning about online communities, conduct and interacting with others.
(It is something that everyone learns, some eariler than others and some later than others. But everyone is, has or will go thru the process)
Kona I would suggest not opening this thread again, you've some things to think about and apply or discard as you see fit... But by reasponding all you do is feed into it, by reading it you in turn feed the stuff you already are trying to work on personally and in the oppsite direction of where you wish to be...
2.) Each of you including Kona had something to say to the way you think and feel about it. Well enough but then it is or has turned into nothing more than baiting Kona. If you've issue with him on a personal level then leave it to the side and ignore him, if you really have good intent, then work on the presentation because all your doing is pushing his buttons for your own pleasure.