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October 20, 2003 10:15:45 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums

Ideally, if one remembers them, try to include the names of the skinner/s involved in the works being displayed.

More important, however...if the wallpaper being used is NOT your own work it is necessary to obscure it with windows, etc. to ensure the screenshot cannot be downloaded and 'adjusted' to become a wallpaper alone.  Often it is quite a simple task to 'extract' the wall itself which classifies as 'distribution' of the artwork without the Author's consent.....and can therefore be a copyright issue.

Just try to protect the rights of the artists whose work you like so much that you are displaying it/them on your desktop....

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Reply #1 October 20, 2003 11:03:20 PM
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Amen
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Reply #2 October 21, 2003 1:13:55 PM
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I agree about your first point Paul, it's really frustrating to see a cool screenshot, only to discover that the person who uploaded it gives NO details of the skins or artists.

 

(by the way, did you mail my prezzy yet?? didya didya huh?)

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Reply #3 October 21, 2003 10:26:11 PM
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That's cool, but where should that information be displayed? I can't find a place in my profile to type that info.
Or did you mean just for the screenshots section?
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Reply #4 October 22, 2003 12:10:56 AM
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The skinner info for the screenshot section...but both that section AND your personal desktop should use partly obscured walls....
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Reply #5 October 22, 2003 12:22:44 AM
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Bryan....send me your addy via my real email addy, not hotmail...it seems to be fragged....
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Reply #6 October 23, 2003 8:26:17 AM
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Reply #7 October 23, 2003 8:30:55 AM
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It took just 5 minutes to extract a viable wallpaper from this submitted screenshot.....the resulting image is reduced and shown inset.

This is why it is important to obscure a wall sufficiently to prevent its distribution in this fashion.

I have gleaned quite a number of great images this way....without the artists' consent....in fact they'd likely have absolutely no idea their property rights were being violated.

If I can do it in 5....I'm sure others could do it even quicker.....

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Reply #8 October 23, 2003 8:32:26 AM
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Oh....forgot......this screenshot was moderated [rejected]....and you 'should' be able to see why....
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Reply #9 October 23, 2003 3:00:24 PM
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Because it's so damn wide that it messes up the layout?
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Reply #10 October 23, 2003 6:16:24 PM
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Jafo strangles crae to improve the gene pool...
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Reply #11 October 24, 2003 11:18:01 AM
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Oh....forgot......this screenshot was moderated [rejected]....and you 'should' be able to see why....




I have an idea but it's not very nice
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Reply #12 October 24, 2003 3:47:27 PM
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I submited this wallpaper with and without the logo, but it "vanished" and i guess not because of the servers but being simply rejected.
I was wondering why would that be.... ? not good enough?
(I own all the art, names and companies that might have appeared on the image)
(and i did erase the logo for the second submision)
soo.. I just wanted to share the image with you...


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Reply #13 October 24, 2003 6:37:31 PM
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Some 'wallpapers' tend to be promotions or advertisements....often a website or similar....and are usually rejected for that reason. Advertising material is usually only of appeal/interest to the creator, not the non-customer....
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Reply #14 October 24, 2003 7:36:25 PM
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Thats pretty sweet lookin. WIthout all the words and stuff it would be great!
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Reply #15 October 24, 2003 7:56:08 PM
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Exactly the point....
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Reply #16 October 25, 2003 8:52:17 AM
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Yeah, that big "Alien Mind" across it ruins the entire piece.
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Reply #17 October 25, 2003 11:30:17 AM
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You know... when I uploaded this shot that Jafo is using, it was a goof. I thought really that I had a rainy and sysmetrix loaded at the same time. All the moderators had to do was email me and ask me to resubmit. I would have done that gladly and I understand copyright issues and the reason this screenshot should have been rejected. ALTHOUGH... it seems what's good for the goose is not always good for the gander here. I have seen screenshots with nothing but wallpaper to grab.. and I have seen copied wallpapers submitted that can be found from Webshots.
I won't sumbit anything else... and probably won't redo my subscription with this site.
Oh... and btw Jafo... you forgot to include names of skinners information with your screenshot.
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Reply #18 October 25, 2003 12:01:10 PM
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mfaccone...you were emailed about this screenshot...I have the copy, as do all the admins.

Your 'goof' was caught FOR you....

As for walls uploaded that are not the property of the uploader to do so....the idea is to notify the site admins so that it/they can be dealt with.

It's not a case of double standard, but a case of what gets noticed gets caught.

And btw....if you mean the screenshot above.....well I have no idea for sure whose it originally was....and it's intended as an example of wall extraction, not as an example of an appropriate upload.

If you mean MY personal screenshot....I don't need to post the skinner's name/s.....all the work is my own.

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Reply #19 October 25, 2003 12:03:47 PM
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Oh...and by the way....you will notice that at NO TIME was the uploader referred to by myself or anyone else, so you were not being dragged over the coals about it at all.
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Reply #20 October 25, 2003 5:43:28 PM
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you were emailed about this screenshot...I have the copy, as do all the admins


Did you use this server to email it? Cause I didn't receive one. All I know is I submitted and waited a day or so.. knowing you have had server problems as of late.. then bam... Jafo has a screenshot of what I submitted saying this is how not to submit.
But ok... could be server problems why I didn't receive the email that all you admins seem to have copies of... still, using it the way it was used IMO is wrong.


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Reply #21 October 25, 2003 7:13:00 PM
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I will say this only once [more]....at NO time was you or your name or anything even remotely related to YOU EVER mentioned or referenced, so this is EXACTLY NOT wrong. 

ANYONE's upload of similar format could have been used....just happened to be this one....and the content was entirely appropriate for the subject matter of this thread.

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Reply #22 October 25, 2003 7:16:39 PM
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Docx... yeah but it had a rainy attached so it did block some of the wall. When I took this screenshot I thought I had the rainy and sysmetrix loaded... just a matter of not really paying attention to what I was doing I guess. Having it declined wasn't a big issue with me... but coming here and seeing it broadcast as a reason why rejection just slapped me in the face. Dianekk... its not Jafo's desktop..
by Citizen mfaccone - 10/24/2003 8:27:34 PM

 

Oh...get a grip....this is a simple, gentle reminder of correct procedure....no names were named, ergo no 'slap in the face'.
Next time just preview your own uploads and lessen the work for the admins...and we ALL will be happy.
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Reply #23 October 25, 2003 8:41:06 PM
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Well lets put things back into perspective here... you seem to get pissed off easy.
1. I didn't at any time accuse you of plastering my name all over the net.
Actually I could give a rats a$$ if you did or not.
2. I said I didn't receive any email notification that this screenshot was accepted or rejected.
It wasn't until I opened the screenshot section that I saw it. I then realized it was rejected and for what reason...
And THIS is the reason I thought you uploading it in that way was wrong. I should have been notified.
As with all art, mods, skins, and I would stretch even as far as screenshots that they are owned by the uploader until
proven otherwise. Maybe not the skin used in the screenshot, maybe not the wallpaper used in the screenshot...
or anything else... but the usage of all put together in a screenshot should be give as much respect as you would one
of your own mods or windowblinds.
3. I really don't care. I just had my opinion that it was wrong to use mine, or anyone elses screenshot like that
without the persons permission.
I didn't mean for you to get so ANGRY. Geez.. take a pill or something.
4. I won't further this thread as it won't make a bit of difference anyhow. And I deleted all my other screenshots from this
site... and I hope they won't be used for any purpose in the future.
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Reply #24 October 25, 2003 8:53:35 PM
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Jafo bangs head against wall.
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Reply #25 October 25, 2003 9:24:26 PM
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We oregonians are impossible to deal with huh jafo?
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