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Microsoft Faces Class-Action on Security Breaches

October 3, 2003 8:31:53 AM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
Microsoft Corp. faces a proposed class-action lawsuit in California based on the claim that its market-dominant software is vulnerable to viruses capable of triggering "massive, cascading failures" in global computer networks

Full Story at http://www.ntfs.org/comments.php?catid=1&id=8141
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Now come on... Let's see if I have this correct...
I've purchased DesktopX, now, let me see, if I ABUSE the intended funtionality of it, and it crashes my system I can now sue Stardock. Hmmm
Oh yeah, my house was broken into... someone put a screwdriver in the lock and twisted it, they gained access to my home and stole my computer. Wow, rather than target the thief, it will be so much easier for me to simply sue the manufacturer of my door lock wont it!!!

This is all getting asenine. If Linux, or other operating systems were as popular as Windows, they would be sitting in the same boat as MS. People just don't Target other OS's like they do windows, because they aren't as widely used.

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Reply #1 October 3, 2003 8:45:04 AM
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I agree totally.
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Reply #2 October 3, 2003 9:24:17 AM
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Hum, in the US, you can pretty much sue anybody for any reason.

But sueing a OS company for security problems almost actually make sense. It happens in other industries. Car companies have been sued before because their cars weren't safe enough.

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Reply #3 October 3, 2003 9:42:14 AM
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but you couldn't sue a car company if the accident were caused by someone tampering with a properly functioning component though... that is the issue.
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Reply #4 October 3, 2003 10:36:24 AM
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Oh well, this peoples' world is totally insane and very ill, and there are no shrinks nor rehab programs to save it.
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Reply #5 October 3, 2003 11:01:51 AM
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Yes the USA has gone dump stupid in that department without a doubt.

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Reply #6 October 3, 2003 11:51:56 AM
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I want to slap every person in that lawsuit.  I wonder if the judge will throw it out.  Using Windows is a choice....heck, using a computer is a choice....I better shut up now as my thoughts are going nowhere good....
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Reply #7 October 3, 2003 12:24:48 PM
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Question:
Say you bought a car, and it had a couple of issues with the door lock.  Say many cars of the same model had been broken into because of the same flaw in the design of the lock.
Would it be imaginable that there would be a class cation lawsuit against the car company, or the lock company?

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Reply #8 October 3, 2003 12:26:21 PM
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I'm confident that the judge will throw the case out. If only it were legal to imprison the lawyers and individuals responsible for frivolous lawsuits such as this one. Perhaps people would be more likely to act with common sense, or at least they'd all be in prison!



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Reply #9 October 3, 2003 12:30:11 PM
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Would it be imaginable that there would be a class cation lawsuit against the car company, or the lock company?


...In the US it would be both...plus the keymaker and whoever forced me to put that key in the hole...



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Reply #10 October 3, 2003 12:47:37 PM
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#7 by paxx - 10/3/2003 12:24:48 PM
Question:
Say you bought a car, and it had a couple of issues with the door lock. Say many cars of the same model had been broken into because of the same flaw in the design of the lock.
Would it be imaginable that there would be a class cation lawsuit against the car company, or the lock company?

Only if they were notified of the flaw and did nothing to correct it.  As I understand, MS has tried its best to fix the vulnerabilities.  Unfortunately, they usually don't know about them until somebody exploits them. 

Also, a lot of these types of lawsuits are either thrown out of court, or settled out of court just to get over the hassle. 

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Reply #11 October 3, 2003 1:28:14 PM
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I wonder where Tech Cat is to give us his usual speech about how this would never happen in Linux...
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Reply #12 October 3, 2003 2:08:39 PM
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I wonder if this is the same bunch in California that is sueing Hard Drive manafacturers. They claim the Hard Drives are smaller than labeled.



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Reply #13 October 3, 2003 4:58:06 PM
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well HD are smaller than they say but that is due to the MBR taking up a very little (500k) on the drive...
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Reply #14 October 3, 2003 5:05:20 PM
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In America.....a bike company was sued for fitting a front brake which was too powerful/efficient and caused the cyclist to high-side. [he was just an idiot cyclist without a clue].

In America.....a bike company was sued for not providing lights on the bike as 'standard fitment' and a cyclist was killed at night without lights.  It was deemed not to be the responsibility of the rider to determine that the use or fitment of lights would be necessary in the dark.

 

Just two little reasons why I think the legal system and coffin-chaser lawyers are the lowest 'profession' in the pecking order of 'lowest professions'....

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Reply #15 October 3, 2003 5:14:39 PM
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No Kona that's not what they're complaining about. Just because the space is used, doesn't mean it isn't there. Here's the deal..... When figuring the size of the drive, they've always took the easy way out..... 1000 k = 1 Meg, 1000 Megs = 1 Gig, but that's inaccurate, and really starts adding up when you get to the big drives. A 20 Gig drive should be 20,480 Megs, not 20,000 ....... and now that I've typed it out, I think they may have a point. My new 80 Gig drive is missing 1,920 Megs of space......



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Reply #16 October 3, 2003 5:16:10 PM
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and now that I've typed it out, I think they may have a point. My new 80 Gig drive is missing 1,920 Megs of space......






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Reply #17 October 3, 2003 5:19:45 PM
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I see your point Koa. My drive states on the print that it is a 4 gig drive. It should be 4096 megs but I only can use 3.900 of it for some reason.
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Reply #18 October 4, 2003 4:45:29 AM
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Kona....that's because your 4gig drive is actually 4,000,000,000 which, if divided by 1024 and again and again 'should' give you 3.9...
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