That's a french site, i'll leave a little message on the "livre d'Or" ...

as a moderator and skinning veteran I assumed that you knew not to post potential websites that are violating copyrights, rips, etc.

Whats your problem man? If my works were being ripped I would start a thread here. Chill out man! >

PG would have a different view on things of it was HIS skins being ripped.

#3 by The Rated PG - 9/29/2003 4:27:21 PM as a moderator and skinning veteran I assumed that you knew not to post potential websites that are violating copyrights, rips, etc.

That's generally true for an individual rip of someone's work which has been uploaded to this or another skinning site. In cases where multiple people could be affected we like to post the details in public so that those people can take whatever action they deem appropriate.

I wonder if they got permission on this site where they are using the abracadabra theme by pixtudio...

Probably not .... and when it comes to 'Cars' they aren't the quickest on the grid!
Under 'Bugatti' ( I'm a revhead, so I have to look!) is a 1939 Jaguar SS100 .... so I doubt ripping a theme is within their range of comprehension!

#8 by Citizen grayhaze - 9/29/2003 4:36:08 PM #3 by The Rated PG - 9/29/2003 4:27:21 PM as a moderator and skinning veteran I assumed that you knew not to post potential websites that are violating copyrights, rips, etc. That's generally true for an individual rip of someone's work which has been uploaded to this or another skinning site. In cases where multiple people could be affected we like to post the details in public so that those people can take whatever action they deem appropriate.

I was going to say what grayhaze said, but he said it, so now I don't have to.

The Rated.....there is, and never has been any doubt that this site in question has and still is posting works without permission. The very evidence of this was with this actual thread that your concerned about....BoXXi is reporting that HIS walls are there without HIS permission. There's no case for innocent until proven guilty.....it's the 'smoking gun' argument, combined with the 'see my bullet wound here' evidentiary analysis....

The only issue with a 'similar' situation is whenI, for example post a thread stating a certain site is ripping BoXXi's walls.....only to find out later that he gave them consent....and I'm an idiot for defaming the site.

This is clearly not the case when the aggrieved is also the complainant.....and that particular site has a 'history'...

As i said before i left a note on the "livre d'Or" of this website. The Webmaster answer me that ther's was no wall on it without permission, and that all walls mention their authors (mouseover tip)

Here's the exchange of mails (in french, it's good to what you have ... )

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Bonsoir,

Effectivement, après ces quelques explications, les choses apparaissent plus clairement, ce qui n'est malheureusement pas le cas au premier coup d'oeil sur le site...
Je ne suis pas personnellement l'auteur de Wallpapers concernés, mais je suis membre d'un site que vous connaissez peut-être, traitant de tout ce qui touche à la "customisation" de PC (en l'occurence wincustomize.com)
Souvent, les auteurs de Wallpapers, skins divers, etc, se voient "piratés" leurs créations, et un "thread" a été ouvert récemment par "BoXXi" concernant votre site. Celui étant français, je me suis donc permis de laisser un mot ...
Cela étant il serait sympathique de venir expliquer votre position à l'URL suivante : https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WC&id=195712#toppage ceci permettant d'éviter tout malentendu.

Au demeurant votre site est pas mal du tout ... )

Cordialement

Philippe
----- Original Message -----
From: Juliencastexfr@aol.com
To: neophil@wanadoo.fr
Cc: webmaster@winboost.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 4:29 PM
Subject: wallpapers_sur_winboost.org


Bonjour,

Je suis l'administrateur du site winboost.org, et je viens de découvrir votre message dans le livre d'or du site !
Je n'ai jamais présenté les wallpapers comme étant des réalisations du site ou même de ma création, sauf les 2 en haut de page !
Si toutefois une de ces réalisations est de votre création et que je ne vous ai pas demander votre permission pour la diffusion, indiquez moi le nom du wallpaper et je le retirerez sans problèmes !
Une information supplémentaire, au passage de la souris sur la capture du wallpaper les infos d'auteur apparaissent (preuve que je ne m'accapare pas ces ?uvres) !
Je reste à votre disposition pour toutes autres remarques, Amicalement

Julien
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Bonjour à tous,
je suis donc l'administrateur du site winboost.org, et je viens de prendre connaissance de vos remarques!
comme je l'ai déja expliqué, si des oeuvres "wallpapers" présent sur mon site n'on rien à y faire j'en suis désolé, n'hésitez pas à me contacter et je supprimerais ces oeuvres sans vous posez le moindre soucis! Lors de la création du site je n'avais pas de contenu au niveau "wallpapers" j'ai donc fait une demande au niveau de mon forum ( 1ere version du site) et ce sont des internautes qui on mis ces oeuvres là à ma disposition, il est vrai que certaines étaient accompagnées de droit de diffusion et d'autres non! Et je reconnais avoir tout de même diffuser! je m'en excuse auprés des créateurs respectifs, mais je ne penssais pas faire de mal! Donc et pour finir, je m'engage à fermer en intégralité la section wallpapers du site si vous en faites la demande et ce, le jour même. Mon but étant d'essayer d'agrandir la communauté au niveau personnalisation de pc, et non de provoquer la colère des créateurs! Toutefois comme vous aurrez pû le constater mon site est entierement gratuit sans la moindre pub, car je ne souhaites pas faire de profis avec le travail d'autruis! J'espere que vous comprendrez, et je vous pris d'accepter mes excuses. Amicalement, Julien.

http://www.winboost.org
webmaster@winboost.org

Admin Jafo - 10/1/2003 6:41:46 AM Can someone translate #18 for me?....Last time I studied French was in 1969...

I think i've already do my job with this website ... and in fact why should there be always the non english native speaking people who should do some effort ?? Hummm ???

In a short resume, that's the admin of winboost.com, who is answering to the title of the thread ...

Ppppppffffiouuuuuuu, i'm tired now ...

And #16 above:

Good evening, Indeed, after these some explanations, the things appear more clearly, which is unfortunately not the case with the first glance on the site... I am not personally the author of Wallpapers not concerned, but I am member of a site which you perhaps know, treating of all that touches with the "customisation" of PC (in the event wincustomize.com) Souvent, authors of Wallpapers, skins various, etc, see themselves "pirated" their creations, and a "thread" was recently open by "BoXXi" relating to your site. That being French, I thus allowed myself to leave a word... That being it would be sympathetic nerve to come to explain your following position with the URL: Link this allowing to avoid any misunderstanding. Moreover your site is not badly whole...) Cordially Philippe ---------------------------- Hello, I am the administrator of the site winboost.org, and I have just discovered your message in the gold book of the site! I never presented the wallpapers as being achievements of the site or even of my creation, except the 2 in top of page! If however one of these achievements is of your creation and that I do not have to ask for your permission for the diffusion to you, indicate to me the name of the wallpaper and I will withdraw it without problems! Additional information, in the passing of the mouse on the capture of the wallpaper the infos of author appear (proof that I do not monopolize myself these?uvres)! I remain at your disposal for all other remarks, Amicalement Julien

Well you can at least get the idea of what's been said.