and this is why WinCustomize *is* a Family based site...
Pictoratus, you expressed what I attempted to say more than once throughout this thread and could not. That is exactly what I meant when mentioning thinking outside the box...
You know, Administration of this site has got to be a lot like dealing with your children in many respects at times.
You have a bond with the people, though not as deep as *your* children, say your childs friend.
So consider the site as the admins child and us as the childs friend. You have three ket things that you are faced with when in such a situation. The safety first and foremost of *your* child and it's well being along with the safety and well being of the friend. But when the friend steps too far over the line where they totally go against waht you find acceptable for your child, the friend has to go... you might have given then a number of chances, or they might have gone so far the first time around that even a second chance is beyond considering....
Actually there are a number of relationship models that would fit the Administration situation, and in all of them there is always the option of asking for the input and help of the one(s) in question for two purposes specifically and possibly other unspoken reasons.
1, the attempt for the one(s) riding the edge to seek out solutions to a given issue so they are a part of it and might find it more acceptable.
2, letting them know there is an issue to begin with even if you do not direct it at them.
in this situation I would add more...
3, an honest attempt to bring a number of issues into focus for everyone without directing it at anyone specifically because everyone at some point in time has or will add to the issue even if not intentionally.
3, to let everyone know that it is in fact a family site, after all, this is a perfect model for an extended family and the most functional families discuss things and do not let them hit a boiling point which weakens the structual frame work that holds it together....
the last is what I think finally killed RazorArt...
it just all fell apart in the end and was to much to deal with on an emotional level as well as as being to time consuming putting out flash fires instead of having fun...
anyway....
blah blah blah... nough from the resident nut case