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Saved App Group not opening as a group

June 24, 2021 4:11:38 AM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

I group all of my messaging apps together - WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Slack & Microsoft Your Phone.  I have saved this group.

When I go to open the group again Slack and Telegram do not open as part of the group.  I have made sure that Slack and Telegram are not already running or in the system tray.

Windows 10 Pro Version 10.0.19042 Build 19042

Groupy 1.49.1 registered version.

Any idea how I can fix this?

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Reply #1 June 24, 2021 5:42:26 AM
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Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. I don't have Slack, but Telegram do open with WhatsApp and Skype in a group in mine. Here is my saved group.groupy file:

[Group]
GroupCount=3
GroupLeft=23
GroupTop=983
GroupRight=1953
GroupBottom=2079
GroupMax=0
Locked=0
[GroupyEntry1]
OwnerProcess=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Roaming\Telegram Desktop\Telegram.exe
NewTabName=
RunElevated=0
NoPatternMatching=0
CommandLine=
WorkingDirectory=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Roaming\Telegram Desktop
Target=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Roaming\Telegram Desktop\Telegram.exe
MatchingClass=Qt5152QWindowIcon
[GroupyEntry2]
OwnerProcess=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Local\WhatsApp\app-2.2123.7\WhatsApp.exe
NewTabName=
RunElevated=0
NoPatternMatching=0
CommandLine=
WorkingDirectory=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Local\WhatsApp\app-2.2123.7
Target=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Local\WhatsApp\app-2.2123.7\WhatsApp.exe
MatchingClass=Chrome_WidgetWin_1
[GroupyEntry3]
OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Skype for Desktop\Skype.exe
NewTabName=
RunElevated=0
NoPatternMatching=0
CommandLine=
WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Skype for Desktop
Target=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Skype for Desktop\Skype.exe
MatchingClass=Chrome_WidgetWin_1


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Reply #2 June 24, 2021 6:38:20 AM
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Thanks Basj,

My .groupy looks pretty similar to yours, we're both using telegram desktop (not MS app store version):

 

[Group]

GroupCount=5

GroupLeft=-1083

GroupTop=987

GroupRight=3

GroupBottom=1657

GroupMax=0

Locked=0

[GroupyEntry1]

OwnerProcess=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Local\WhatsApp\app-2.2123.7\WhatsApp.exe

NewTabName=

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Local\WhatsApp\app-2.2123.7

Target=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Local\WhatsApp\app-2.2123.7\WhatsApp.exe

MatchingClass=Chrome_WidgetWin_1

[GroupyEntry2]

OwnerProcess=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Local\Programs\signal-desktop\Signal.exe

NewTabName=

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Local\Programs\signal-desktop

Target=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Local\Programs\signal-desktop\Signal.exe

MatchingClass=Chrome_WidgetWin_1

[GroupyEntry3]

OwnerProcess=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Roaming\Telegram Desktop\Telegram.exe

NewTabName=

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Roaming\Telegram Desktop

Target=C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Roaming\Telegram Desktop\Telegram.exe

MatchingClass=Qt5152QWindowIcon

[GroupyEntry4]

StoreApp=1

OwnerProcess=91750D7E.Slack_8she8kybcnzg4!Slack

NewTabName=

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=1

Target=91750D7E.Slack_8she8kybcnzg4!Slack

MatchingClass=Chrome_WidgetWin_1

[GroupyEntry5]

StoreApp=1

OwnerProcess=Microsoft.YourPhone_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App

NewTabName=

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=1

Target=Microsoft.YourPhone_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App

MatchingClass=ApplicationFrameWindow

 

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Reply #3 June 24, 2021 6:50:03 AM
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I did some more fiddling with it and it doesn't group if the telegram 'Show tray icon' option is checked

Similarly for slack if 'Leave app running in notification area when the window is closed' is checked then it will not group:

So I do have it working now, but the solution is not ideal as I would like to have the tray icons for both apps.  

I'd argue that this is a bug that needs fixing.  Where should it be reported?

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Reply #4 June 24, 2021 7:48:20 AM
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Hello,
I have forward your problem/question to Stardock Support Team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate your feedback and patience.

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Reply #5 June 24, 2021 9:12:06 AM
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thanks!

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Reply #6 June 24, 2021 9:42:18 AM
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Quoting jhob101,
reply 3

I'd argue that this is a bug that needs fixing.  Where should it be reported?

It's not a bug per se`, as those options essentially have the app running, the requirement needed you discussed initially.

I have made sure that Slack and Telegram are not already running or in the system tray.

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Reply #7 June 24, 2021 11:05:17 AM
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Quoting sdRohan,
reply 6
It's not a bug per se`, as those options essentially have the app running, the requirement needed you discussed initially.

Hi Sean,

But at the point I open the Groupy saved group they are not running, they don't exist in the system tray, and I can see in Task Manager that the processes for those apps are not running.

All those settings do is add the icon to the system tray, and leave it running there once the main app window is closed.  But that only happens after the app is initially opened, which hasn't happened at the point that the Groupy group is initialised.

So I still think this is a bug.

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Reply #8 June 24, 2021 12:56:02 PM
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reply 7

All those settings do is add the icon to the system tray,

If they are there, some part of them is running. Again, you said it yourself, if those are not checked (not running), it works, yes?

If true, then something is running with them there.

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Reply #9 June 25, 2021 4:35:53 AM
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That's annoying then.  Is there any way around this?

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Reply #10 June 25, 2021 12:24:02 PM
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That's annoying then.  Is there any way around this?

Not currently but there has been some discussion on how to handle already open apps, especially browsers.

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Reply #11 June 25, 2021 12:47:07 PM
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OK thanks.  Good to hear it's being considered anyway.

cheers

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Reply #12 September 27, 2021 9:04:05 AM
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Try uninstalling and reinstalling the applications. This method has always helped me. Lately, all messengers have been unstable. More and more often, I began to notice some bugs and shortcomings.

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Reply #13 September 29, 2021 11:53:24 AM
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>>I have made sure that Slack and Telegram are not already running or in the system tray.<<

More items I use are open in the system tray and I have no problems. I might mention I do not have Slack and Telegram to experiment with.

My point is the system tray does not appear to have any adverse effects on Groupy, at least for me.

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Reply #14 September 29, 2021 12:01:39 PM
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>>More items I use are open in the system tray and I have no problems. I might mention I do not have Slack and Telegram to experiment with.<<

More should be Most. Since I can not edit my post I had to do it this way, correct of More to Most.

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Reply #15 September 29, 2021 3:08:43 PM
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Quoting amerifax,
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My point is the system tray does not appear to have any adverse effects on Groupy, at least for me.

It would follow then that the systray exe is not the same as the running app itself.

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