The statement makes no sense. Did you mean that "Something can't come from Nothing?" I would suggest a smidgen of Physics and Chemistry, so at the very least you'll have the vocabulary to express yourself. I think, though, you said pretty much the same thing hundreds of posts back, and I answered it. If you are gonna talk in absolutes, i.e. this or that CAN'T happen, at least look into what you are talking about, and present something apparent to all that will plead your case.
In the meantime, we'll say your OPINION is that "Negative matter nor positive matter cannot just jump into existence ...". Don't pretend that you are making any kind of argument, though. You are just telling us absolutes and expecting us to believe. I'm personally not willing to take your word for it.
Like I said in my post, I was referring to 'the beginning' of evolution. Something, anything, any atom, any form of energy cannot just appear here. You or anyone else cannot prove it can, because there is no such thing as a controlled environment to test this. And even if there were, it wouldn't be correct because the scientists are the one doing the experiement. Its not doing it by itself. Any experiments done by scientists are done by them. The experiment isn't done by itself.
You can believe whatever you want, Baker. I respect your decision.
| The consequences are perfectly clear. If that is enforced upon a child by the parents then these parents should be charged with murder. Because that is what it is. |
The parents believe it is in the best interest of the child. We put God first.
| Nah. I spoke to Moses on the phone the other day and he said: "I am so sorry, MadIce. I made a booboo. I never thought medical science would advance in such a way these days. But I have found the answer to save those poor JWs. We offer blood from lugworms soon. Maybe those nasty JWs can be saved afterall. We provided that to stop them from manslaughter in the future. Clever, hey?." |
Moses was inspired by God to write what he wrote (2 Timothy 3:16). Also, due to modern advances in medical technology we don't have to take blood.
| I know it is off topic but I wanted to add that the JW have rewritten the bible just like the mormons have. |
I see nearly the same things in my Bible that are in other Bibles. Maybe in other Bibles the name of God (Psalm 83:18) is taken out, or in 1 or 2 Bibles a Scripture is put in and that my Bible uses common language so that it is easier to understand (no thou, thy, shalt and so on), but other than those, my Bible is like any other.
I thought the Mormans made a completely new book?
As for the belief of the 'fiery hell.' Perhaps you're thinking of the story of the Rich Man and Lazarus in the book of Luke at 16:19-31.
Note what is said about the rich man. Why was he tormented in Hades? What had he done? Jesus did not say that the rich man led a degraded life, did he? All that Jesus said was that the man was rich, dressed well and feasted sumptuously. Does such conduct of itself merit punishment by torment? True, a serious failing is implied in the attitude of the rich man toward the beggar Lazarus. The rich man lacked compassion for him. But did that failing distinguish him sufficiently from Lazarus?
Think about what Jesus said concerning Lazarus. Is there anything in the account to lead us to conclude that, if the situation had been reversed, Lazarus would have been a compassionate man? Do we read that Lazarus built up a record of fine works with God, leading to his coming into the “bosom position of Abraham,” that is, a position of divine favor? Jesus did not say that. He merely described Lazarus as a sickly beggar.
So is it logical to conclude that all sickly beggars will receive divine blessings at death, whereas all rich men will go to a place of conscious torment? Not at all. Begging is of itself no mark of God’s favor. To the contrary, the Bible contains the prayerful expression: “Give me neither poverty nor riches.” (Proverbs 30:8) And of his time, King David wrote: “I have not seen anyone righteous left entirely, nor his offspring looking for bread.”—Psalm 37:25.
If we take Jesus’ words literally, we would have to draw still other conclusions that would make the illustration strange indeed. These include: That those enjoying celestial happiness are in position to see and speak to those suffering torment in Hades. That the water adhering to one’s fingertip is not evaporated by the fire of Hades. And, that, although the torment of Hades is great, a mere drop of water would bring relief to the sufferer.
Taken literally, do these things sound reasonable to you? Or, do you feel, instead, that what Jesus said was not meant to be taken literally? Is there any way to be sure?
Examine the context. To whom was Jesus talking? At Luke 16:14 we are told: “Now the Pharisees, who were money lovers, were listening to all these things, and they began to sneer at him.”
Since Jesus spoke in the hearing of the Pharisees, was he relating an actual case or was he simply using an illustration? Concerning Jesus’ method of teaching the crowds, we read: “Indeed, without an illustration he would not speak to them.” (Matthew 13:34) Accordingly, the account about the rich man and Lazarus must be an illustration.
This illustration was evidently directed to the Pharisees. As a class they were like the rich man. They loved money, as well as prominence and flattering titles. Jesus said of them: “All the works they do they do to be viewed by men; for they broaden the scripture-containing cases that they wear as safeguards, and enlarge the fringes of their garments. They like the most prominent place at evening meals and the front seats in the synagogues, and the greetings in the marketplaces and to be called Rabbi by men.”—Matthew 23:5-7.
The Pharisees looked down on others, especially on tax collectors, harlots and others having the reputation of being sinners. (Luke 18:11, 12) On one occasion when officers, sent to arrest Jesus, came back empty-handed because of having been impressed by his teaching, the Pharisees spoke up: “You have not been misled also, have you? Not one of the rulers or of the Pharisees has put faith in him, has he? But this crowd that does not know the Law are accursed people.”—John 7:47-49.
Hence, in the parable the beggar Lazarus well represents those humble persons whom the Pharisees despised but who repented and became followers of Jesus Christ. Jesus showed that these despised sinners, upon repenting, would gain a position of divine favor, whereas the Pharisees and other prominent religious leaders as a class would lose out. He said: “Truly I say to you that the tax collectors and the harlots are going ahead of you into the kingdom of God. For John came to you in a way of righteousness, but you did not believe him. However, the tax collectors and the harlots believed him, and you, although you saw this, did not feel regret afterwards so as to believe him.”—Matthew 21:31, 32.
