Only hundreds? oh boy I think they left a few other ppl out... hehe

yes there is: complete goverment control of your life....

but that will never happen!

This is just the begining. Music, then Movies and then who knows.

MP3s won't end....but perhaps property theft might...

There is a difference, if I rip treetog's skin, I will get blasted by every community member in here, and lose any and all credability to my name and will probably be never welcomed in another skin community again. I will still have all my money though...

There is all but one solution to the problem here, and thats a new internet. The internet we use today was definately not meant to become what it has. The scientists that created it did so for business use, not for shopping/games/music. They never implemented many security features as the technology at the time was rather old. We have advanced in leaps and bounds since then and a new scalable, secure internet will solve a lot of these problems. Let's face it, Microsoft is really pushing DRM and that IS going to be the future. Just like they wanted Windows Media Player to become a market leader, it has. Just like Internet Explorer, just like XBox. If Microsoft want's it done...it will be done. So imagine DRM for ISPs. Where your connection has certain access to the interent...like they can block P2P apps from working through internet protocols or something, I dunno how it would work...but it might be something along those lines. That's the only possible solution to this. Sueing 1000's of people will only intimidate...not solve.

They are currently building the new Internet. They call it Internet2. You can read about here... http://www.internet2.edu/

Do you think the RIAA has any clue about stuff like that going on and what do they plan to do with someone who conducts a transaction of such caliber....I know when I load my cds into my computer I pretty much have all 200 plus of my cds at 192kbps on about 12 or so gigs..I couldnt even begin to fathom all the stuff this kid got for 120bucks...

Yeah, I know that it is not legal..But if they can sell and advertise an hardrive with mp3s and its illeage...then wouldnt in effect e bay become nothing more than a "napster"..and if so doesnt e bay have a dedicated server...Therfore nthey should be shut down or at least reprimanded??? Like Napster..??? Im sure if Childporn or something equally as illeage were to be sold on ebay that is little more than changing the mediem that you attain the mp3s...Im just wondering, since I do not go to ebay..If these "hardrives" are regularly avail wouldnt the RIAA really want to raise a stink on this subject also...If I buy a computer used..and it just happens to have 30 gigs of mp3s on ebay...Whos to blame....Is their a law that says specifically you have to format and erase all data on a harddrive mbefore sale of said computer and Im taking into account the disclamer on software....however if you purchase it already on the computer you Actually never did agree to the disclamer..theirfore where does this fall in litigation..??? To many loopholes and trouble are coming over this and I feel really bad for all the parents of all the teenagers who pay for the highspeed connection and will be responsible for this mess...I wonder if a parent of a teen who did all the D/Ls is a super big lawer what kind of legal war will be waged on the industry and wasted time that could have been spent on "Real Criminals" like the mone who stole myn stereo and 50 count cd binderI no longer have those cds, but do I therfore lose the rights to own the copie I made as backup also...I have sevral cds that are copies because the original was stolen...Either from my car or my home..Whos to choose what is NOW actual Legal ownership..The thief who robbed me or Me because I have a copy of a cd I actually purchased.....Hmmm...This is something to think on....Because I have approxitmaly 60 cds I only have copies of because they were stolen from me..I never keep originals in my car anymore..But Cds always seem to disaper from my collection...It could potentially be really ugly all around....And in the end who will win????

But if they can sell and advertise an hardrive with mp3s and its illeage...then wouldnt in effect e bay become nothing more than a "napster"..and if so doesnt e bay have a dedicated server...Therfore nthey should be shut down or at least reprimanded??? Like Napster..???

Ebay usually stops things like this from what I've seen. I'm not sure how this auction got to it's end without being cancelled.

'real criminals' is like 'more pregnant'....doesn't exist....you either are, or you are not...

like when I say someone is full of ..erm .. crap, I don't mean half full

But my ? is, If you buy 10 cds, make a single backup of each..SAomeone breaks into your house and steals the originals..Now all you have is the copy correct..So Now you are a crimminal also...That sounds like pretty shakeyground to me..as in Im in that catagory now..I paid for the rights to own that cd..the original was stolen, now the theif is tecnically the legal owner ..provided he never gets caught...or there is suffecient proof to prosocute him....also did you know that every record shop that sells and buys USED cds never gives money to the original artist for said transactin....The artist only gets money when a new batch of cds is ordered by Oh lets say Sam Goodys or tower..Wouldnt that also be stealing from the music industry also????I know of instances where kids who dont have alot of money go and buy used cds then copy and return thecd to get another used cd....now arent in effect used record stores now becoming a "NAPSTER" of sorts.....Since you can go get for a small fee a cd copy it and bring it back..this facilitates file sharing Just the internet is not used to get said music...The cost of the used cd plus the return of it is maybe 3 dollars per cd....now all you are doing is eliminating your monthly High speed bill of 50dollars....Now lets chew on that one....

Dude give it up to Jafo!!!!!, it sucks but you are right..The problem will lay in who will feel more questionably right or wrong..If they ever came to me to prosocute on burnt copies of cds I had purchased I would tell them to bite me...But I Know I purchased them therfore i FEEL ITS MY RIGHT TO HAVE A COPY...However if you totalled up all the cds taken from me by ex girlfriends and other people my cd collection would be about a thousand if not more..I have a Vynil collection of over 2000 plus records, and for some reason no one wants to steal them..even though I purchase 'New Realese records"...I have turntables and a mixer..So 12inches is my perfered medium anyways...But no one ever takes my records..My whole house could up and be emptied and they would probably leave the records..They have before in the past....

'vinyl'....