Thank you; I uninstalled, restarted & reinstalled.

The purge bat file seemed like it didn't do anything, I'm not sure — it neither uninstalled the software nor forced a restart — so I just did it the normal way.

So far so good though, everything is working as expected!

Nope: even after reinstall, Groupy randomly does things it shouldn't.

I have it set to "Only group windows of the same application or type with each other" and yet, I just tried to open a window in Chrome and Groupy grouped it with another completely different application that's even on my exclusion list.

Tried again, and this time it grouped a Chrome window with a Windows Explorer group.

This won't fix everything but one idea for the next version: add another key option(s) besides "Ctrl" for "Group newly opened windows in the Ctrl key is held down whilst opening them."

Sometimes I do want new windows to get grouped, but the problem is that "Ctrl" is commonly used to do other things: "Ctrl + S" to save, "Ctrl + N" to open a new window, etc. I have a feeling Groupy is confusing these with "Ctrl held to group".

The problem with "random" things the impossibility of anticipating when it will happen again, so I doubt I can get video.

I am not opening Chrome with a saved group. I am using Chrome separately, not with Groupy. When I open a new Chrome window using CTRL+N, Groupy occasionally grouped it with a totally different window/application it shouldn't.

I might be misunderstanding what you're saying but it's not reasonable to expect that a user cannot have both the Chrome web browser and Groupy running at the same time.

To clarify, these would be the steps to reproduce:

1. Using Windows 10 v 1909
2. Using Chrome v 83.0.4103.61
3. Using Groupy 1.32
4. Only using Groupy to group Windows Explorer tabs. NOT using Saved Groups, NOT intentionally using with Chrome.
5. Click on Chrome to select it as the active application
6. CTRL+N to open a new Chrome window
   • Groupy unexpectedly groups the new Chrome window with Windows Explorer (the default Windows file browser)
   • OR, Groupy unexpectedly groups the new Chrome window with Firefox. Or any other App.

Here's a REAL screenshot; "luckily" it happened again just now:

My Groupy settings:

^ I don't have Chrome or Firefox excluded currently because it's occasionally useful to Group their windows (when it's done purposely, not accidentally/randomly like the issue I'm reporting). But if that's the only solution right now, then I will have to.

^ See above ESPECIALLY. I have selected "Only group windows of the same application or type...".

I hope this is all clear. Thank you.

I managed to get video: https://i.imgur.com/nrQCkft.mp4

Here I am clicking the "+" to open a new tab, and closing using "CTRL+W"

As you can see, for the first 15 seconds Groupy behaved as expected. At 00:15, it opened a new window instead of a tab. At 00:26, it does that again. Then at 00:30 (after I manually grouped the windows by holding Shift), it reverted back to normal behavior.

Here's another example:

I then opened Handbrake to compress that video recording and... Groupy grouped Handbrake with File Explorer (see screenshot within screenshot below). And then I went to get a screenshot of that and it further grouped Snip & Sketch with both File Explorer AND Handbrake (top):

Here's another video for you: https://i.imgur.com/UblBSsD.mp4

Steps:

• Right click on any folder
• Hold CTRL
• Click "open in new window"

Expectation: opens in new Groupy tab, like at :04.

Unexpected behavior: sometimes opens in a new window, like at :09.

No, like I said, the behavior happens randomly / unexpectedly. I had to try multiple times to get it on video because there's no certain or reproducible sequence of actions that trigger these behaviors.

Thanks Neil, I'll check it out as soon as I can get the update (the Groupy app is telling me there isn't one yet; I'm on 1.32)

I really wish I could say the problems are gone with this update, but instead, both of the old issues persist AND a new unwanted behavior has appeared:

When clicking "+" for a new Groupy tab, the newly-created active tab doesn't appear at the end of the tab lineup as expected:

Example: I have 5 tabs and the 5th one in the row (the right-most one) is selected. I click + and expect the new tab to appear next to it, in the 6th position. Instead it appears in the 2nd position (from the left). When I click + again, the new one opens in 3rd position, and so on.

Even that is unpredictable: I just had the 1st position tab selected, hit +, and the new one opened in 3rd position.

Hi,

Just to clarify, by "both issues" I meant these:

1. Groups different applications together with File Explorer (https://forums.stardock.com/500088/get;3779601)
2. Opens new window instead of tab (https://forums.stardock.com/500088/get;3779606)

I'll have to check on the ZBrush issue again. UPDATE 06.25.20: no further issues with ZBrush at the moment.

Re: tabs — Seems to happen only with Saved Groups, especially re-opened ones.

GroupyCtrl.exe sign date: ‎Tuesday, ‎June ‎9, ‎2020 3:15:04 PM