@ madice

Feel how ever you wan't to feel about it, but it sure makes your desktop looks awesome

There's no 'e' in 'ridiculous'....

The key to skinning is knowing the limitations and working around them. There's very little I've wanted to do with WindowBlinds that I haven't eventually found a way to do. Perhaps your expectations are just a little too high?

Well MP, I'm gonna have to agree with you, but I still just recently renewed my Object Desktop again, as I will next year (again). The WB4 improvements allow for skinning other 'areas' of the os but not the actual windows interface. I do see the WB effort moving along in nicely taken steps, not ungainly leaps. Paitience is, afterall, a virtue. Let me also say you're skins are innovative and exceptionally artistic, so it seems you're doing pretty good at playing the hand you're delt...

Swell idea, Aqua, although a little too Socratic...

The bottom title bar has problems with vertical font position.
Also right aligned titles have clipping problems
the bottom title bar also causes problems with MANY programs.
Transparency had problems when it overlaps other sections, which leads you to need to use and ungodly amount of buttons.
Still no functionality for middle buttons.
should be a way to set minimum windows size, for those of use who put close on the right side, a la Apple.
No anti-aliasing for borders.
Alpha transparency for border buttons doesn't work properly in most cases.

The list goes on. Those are all problems with the current features. I could write pages on features it's missing. As I said the base of the program hasn't really changed too much in the past 2 years. In my personal opinion they need to just revamp the entire window skinning part of windowblinds, it was great in its day but it's due for a heavy update. It just seems skinning of other apps; WinAmp, Sonique, Media Player, ect ect have evolved so much, while windowblinds still lacks many fundamental features.
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I wasn't so much as comparing it to the media players skinning style, as much as the development that goes behind skinning a media player. WindowBlinds should requier some sort of (real) scripting, this way you could create much more dynamic looking skins. I mean just think of the extra abilities simple if/then statements could add, ie. you could have it stretch for smaller windows and tile for larger. When I said that skinning of other programs has evolved, I meant that the method used to do it has; now instead of relaying on a preset layout more is left up to the skinner. And I don't see why windowblinds should be any different. I understand we are creating skins for a "box that has data", but that's only because we are limited to it. When it comes down to it, most skins are pretty much cookie cutter patterns; even ones the try to venture beyond, such as my own, don't vary all that much.

It's not that I want it to have some crazy features to fit my needs, like I said it seems to be missing many fundamental features; such as z-indexing, semi-transparent borders, vertical text, ect. Things like these seem pretty basic, and would benefit everyone, it wouldn't just be formed around one person's needs.

Also, a lot of issues seem to relate to speed. I asked Brad once why Windowblinds wouldn't support alpha blending on the edges for smooth borders. It seems it would slow down many computers and would bring a lot of "Windowblinds slows down my computer" complaints. Apparently it will be considered when it is estimated that most people have a powerfull computer.

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developer who has the power to change the program.  Otherwise, people can
complain until they are blue in the face and it won't change anything. 
this site has skin libraries and a place to chat about skinning.  It is
*not* a place to try and get programs changed or report bugs.

Beastatron: Lets try to keep thinking postive here. No need to get someone on the defensive with comments like that. I think that is was good that he bring this up so that we can help him figure out how to overcome these obstacles.

Beastatron: MindlessPuppet isn't exactly a newbie or a newcomer to this site. Apparently he took a long break so you may not be aware of him or his work.

So before you so glibly suggest he isn't capable of completing a skin (an odd way to "encourage" someone, btw) you might want to check out his work on this site. I still have some of his WB skins on my old W98 box.

Limitations as such can be frustrating, but overcoming them gives a great sense of satisfaction....on-going proggy development....actually 'helping' to improve the breed with bug-squashing reports, etc is what it's ALL about...