joe: i said the majority (not all) has unattractive graphics and that it is about personal taste. something with jaggies will never get on my desktop

btw: i don´t use regular windows as well.

would be fair to add that "the majority (not all) has unattractive graphics" fit´s to many skinnable applications.

having misunderstood the question, I answered "They are too complicated." By this I meant that creating a new, full featured WB4 skin, is complicated.

Good thing I resisted. The no gripe came in handy.

Well, I guess this thread accomplished something. A new choice was added to the poll.

"I just can't go back to regualer windows... I just can't."

I agree! And thank you for adding the No Gripes choice.

I Just voted !
I Have no gripe!

jafo: no way i am using StyleXP, i hacked uxtheme.dll myself with a hex editor (VirtualPlastic has the instructions). took about 30 seconds.

series of apps? why should i? if i run HVD or BB as shell this functionality is already there. in LS i have to load a module that takes about zero memory and cpu time.
in *NIX it´s pretty clear that the window manager takes care about this functionality. Windows on the other hand does not have a window manager, so there´s no clear definition which app, the shell or the one that draws window decorations, should handle this, there are even some graphics card drivers that have it included.

btw: different topic, but as this is the site that get´s most hits, how about building up a library with links to skinning resources as Photoshop interface tutorials. i think that will help to lift the technical standard.