Huston, I think we have a problem!!!!!

adni18

Join Date 05/2001

+70

Huston, I think we have a problem!!!!!

Jafo, I think we ALL have a problem!

I have just been informed that there is a company with the name Delphi-VCL Skin that sales the “Skin Engine” and with their product the give a huge number of skins, which means that the buyers of SkinEngine, can use those skins for having a profit with their business.

Here comes the good part of it!
The skins that they sell are all the works of known authors of WinCustomize, like Alexandrie, treetog, Mike Bryant, Grayhaze, essorant and many others.
There are no names, no credits, nothing, just an ID number of the skin.

Any one can download the skins for free, but the professionals can use them for their applications, sites etc and the have the right for the profit they will get, because the have purchase the Skin Engine!!!!!

I think this is too heavy to accept it.

I hope that our Official Layer Jafo will take care of it.

So, here something to start with Paul.

The following skin ID numbers are my skins:

0330
0294
0394
0379
0392
0177
0178
0034
0138
0377
0378
0060
0383
0353
0165
0249
0051
0203
0147
0075
0067
0030
0107
0055
0092

The link of those clever guys is:
http://www.link-rank.com/lib/lib1p.htm

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adni18

Join Date 05/2001

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They don't have all the parts of the skin jebland, that is why are small, are in binary format and also are the latest skins

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DavidK

Join Date 03/2001

I sent them an email asking if they are open to discussing compensation for all the artists whose work they are using illegally. I wonder if they'll reply?

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These are definately rip-offs of Windowblinds I and it irks me to see that.

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werewolf

Join Date 04/2001

+28

They even ripped one of my 2 (yes, count 'em) 2 windowblinds skins. First time ever being ripped. I e-mailed them.

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hey, a mile stone!! not a good one, but still a mile stone !

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werewolf

Join Date 04/2001

+28

Yeah IPlural, I was conflicted

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adni18

Join Date 05/2001

+70

That is great David

I don't think that they care

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werewolf

Join Date 04/2001

+28

Oh I'm sure they don't. Works from all the great ones are in there. It's just so frustrating that there doesn't seem to be a really good way of dealing with these folks. I guess, even if my skin wasn't there, I still take this personally. Wincusto and all you folks are sort of like a second home (isn't that pathetic

) and it just pisses me off that someone can steal from my home like this and get away with it.

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da_zman20

Join Date 08/2001

+51

I even saw some of your adni?? do you remember giving them permission??? those guys... grrr... like they didn't know it was wrong to take someone elses work and take credit for it... grrrr....

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mm, actually it could be hard coded into the products and then the skins have a key generated and imbeded into an obscure file that has to match the compiling SS editor, even if you add your key with a text editor for those cutting skins with those and run the skin against SS before posting. WB could then cross reference against the registration number used to register the products online to ensure the owner is running the product and the product is registed to make use of the skin/theme... or maybe not, just thinking with my fingers...

probably just opened myself up to 50 rants and such for even thinking it let alone openly mentioning it

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I ma keep my mind shut now on...

yeah, they need to be dinked for sure....

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Should they be nuked? Not that I would ever do that...Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire....just asking....

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da_zman20

Join Date 08/2001

+51

send an email to their ISP... the people that host their site and have them taken off... send them links to specific skins here... and mention about theft... and copyright... but I know you guys have more classy terms... but get them taken off line... think like micrsoft would... WWMD???

microsoft would have them taken off the net... and have a big microsoft graphic put up... instead of their site..

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get em sorted...and damn quick

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get em sorted...and damn quick

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why Peff I am sure I know not what you mean

someone edit a form letter of notification to cease and decist or face litigation and send it with the links and info in the email form letter and eavery single person who got ripped send one to the Regsoft, ISP, Web Host whichever

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My skins have been ripped too, along with just about everyone else's here >

Fuzzy Logic is annoyed and wants these people's gonads removed asap.

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RuskiMoutainOysters anyone?

yes, they need cut off, line at least and out of business...

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Jafo

Join Date 03/2001

+1845

OK...don't nuke anyone.

I emailed them yet again, but we need someone who can argue the case in Russian.
Their usual excuse is probably half real...no speakie de eengleesh.

Last time, I tried an online translator...however I believe I quite accurately explained to them their hovercraft was full of jellied eels.

Like I said, it is going to be a language issue.

But nuking, spamming...hate mail, etc is not the way to go about it...

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DavidK

Join Date 03/2001

Earlier today I had sent this email:

>Are you aware that the skins you are selling on your website are the copyrighted property of several artists? These skins are posted on several "skinning" websites and are owned by their creators. You have no permission to modify, redistribute or sell these copyrighted designs.
>
>Are you open to discussing compensation and credit for the artists whose work you are using?
>
>Please reply,
>
>David Knott
> Email
>www.wincustomize.com

And just got this reply:

David Knott

　　the skins are free for all user. we will contact the artists or remove the skins.

best regards

Pan wen

Link
info@link-rank.com

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Jafo

Join Date 03/2001

+1845

If their host/provider can have their site pulled for theft and/or piracy then that'll be a 'start'...

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Jafo

Join Date 03/2001

+1845

Mine, as usual....

It appears that you are displaying numerous skins on your site originally created by authors other than yourself.
Although images are freely available for download on the Internet, they are EXPRESSLY for personal use, which does not include the reproduction and redistribution of them via another site such as yours.
The modification, and/or re-distribution of an artist's images without his/her express permission is in violation of the Artist's Copyright, and is pursuable in law.

Whether these images link to the original artist's site or not, or whether the Original artist is credited or not, without prior permission to display such, you are in violation of inherent and/or expressed copyright.

I strongly suggest you remove any such images for which you do not have permission to display via verification of aurthor, and minimize the potential for litigation against you and subsequent claims for loss.

I await your favourable response.

Paul Martin
Jafo
[Admin...Wincustomize.com]
[Admin...Pixtudio.com]
[Senior Member...Deviantart.com]

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adni18

Join Date 05/2001

+70

I don't think that is very easy to deal with these guys and this bothers me a lot.
But we must not give up, I hope that every one from our community will help for the protection of authors rights!

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Code 43...Nuke attack aborted.....

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They are pretty wide open, however....

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