I gave you a f-in "TEN" even after the crap you pulled and then you still dissed me...on the thread I told you to leave alone because you were being a jerk...

You started your crap by leaving an ugly remark on one of my wallpapers which you vehemently denied making because I had deleted it to save you the embarrassment but when I re-uploaded it your lame remark was there again and you had to save face and I tried to be nice...geez.

Pick a fight with me...go ahead...I'm too tired. I have the flu and I don't need your crap.

Bye and good riddance to the "phony" friend you never were.
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I think my point has been adequately made.

too cute

Well....I have tried to be more subtle in a previous thread. I have given some options for a change in the rating system, a loooooooooooooooong way back...That was wasted time...You have to put up with it. If a rating is more important than the pleasure of creating you create for the wrong reasons. However there are too many rated too high at first look, and too many rated too low. And, the average # of ratings is 2,5 per work...Conclusion: it doesn't say anything about your work, you are handed over to the caprice of the raters. Life is hard.

Delicious.....most ratings/comments are made without ever loading the skin. I started a thread about this at Skinbase, and learned, quite a few people comment/rate skins for apps they don't even use.
If you want fairness, and equality in all things, you'll need to migrate to another planet, I fear.

Paul, I really wasn't talking about the admins /moderators here.............. just people in general.

Yes, indeed, Jafo. Koasati wasn't talking about you, nor about admins/moderators. I think that sadly he is right. A lot of people rate and comment based on the screenshots. I don't know if "most" do it, but I'd say a fair number do.

Delicious: some people have their work automatically submited and bypass moderation. They receive an automatic rating of 6 at first. But as soon as a human gives the skin a real rating, the initial 6 is removed and replaced by the new real rating.

General thouhg: sure, ratings are stupid. But that's a fact of life. Nothing to do about it. I have an icon that I uploaded in two different sections, and althouhg they are both exactly the same, one has a rating of 10 and the other has a rating of 7. Try to understand the logic there. But oh well, I am passed being annoyed by it. It just makes me laugh anymore.

the question of "how high" to rate something is one i grapple with now and then.

i am not a skinner (maybe in the future ) so i rate as a user.

i down load very little these days, and tend to rate and comment even less.

the simple reason for this is that if i download it and conclude "it isn't to my taste", i don't rush off and comment or rate to this effect.

however, on the rare occasions something really moves me, i will and do rate and comment highly.

then i am not motivated by the technical quality of the work (not something i feel qualified to judge), but by the positive emotional impact it had on *me*.

and before someone asks why i download so little, very little really reaches out and grabs me

to me, this is the only honest way i can behave *shrug*

The reason why we can't do anything about it is that we can't change human nature.
The ratings are necessary because we cannot base the quality of a skin based on downloads since you can download a skin and then not like it. But it would still be considered a download. For sure this system isn't perfect, because human judgement is required and we all know that this is a very unscientific thing.

I think download counts should be abolished. After all, its unfair that a skin gets to be in the top list of skins just because it received a high number of downloads. How is that fair. Just because it does get a high number of downloads does not mean its a good skin. I see many other skins that deserve to get into the top skin list but never do. After all, some people probably just have their friends download their skins just so they can get high numbers.
This is a worthless system and should be aboloshed immediately. Or because they have their name spot lighted in the top author lists makes them get immediate downloads whether their skin is good or not.

I cannot believe that this system of using download counts is still in place. Its a farce, its a joke, it should be removed!

But there is a certain similarity between downloads and rates. Why favour one and crush the other while actually the meaning is the same?

Well, I didn't mean to start a battle raging in here, I only want to point out how the abuse of the rating privilege can damage a person's work. If the general public sees that a skin has a low rating, would they not assume that there is something wrong with it and not DL it? As Lecrayon points out, most skins only have a couple or a small few of actual people rating it and the caprice of one person abusing that privilege can have a large impact on the rating of that skin.