Clg is getting taken apart...

idk if any of you did the worlds pick'em thing but I made a leader board so we can see how each other is doing. 

http://pickem.lolesports.com/share/series/2/user/458935/leaderboards/list/invite/ML9dhtCPa0bgs3CK9zpX/159606

Time for BKT to sweep.  Kids been playing possum - I'm sure of it.

Sweep complete!

Cow - is there a pic you could send to dyrus to cheer him up? #SS

watching the vods to catch up... cloud 9 having a rough day...

rip    

5.20 patch notes out

http://eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-520-notes

I would think that depends entirely on team composition.  If you have a Malphite, you should be following him in, and wont even need one to get it off, if the enemy team has Malphite, you're probably going to want to be counter engage, which means not being the guy Malphite goes in on to start with, so it's probably not critical then either.

I'd say Zhonya's, and accompanying magic resist and general tankiness, is necessity when your team lacks some form of engagement, or when you just have the perfect setup for ass kickery with chain aoe cc on your team through other champs that can't really engage well either.

If you're paired with Kalista of course, Zhonya's would be really nice.

Zeke's in particular gives you reason not to build one to start with though.  You're already boosting 30 armor, general durability has been achieved, so unless you really need to tank the whole enemy team it's a bit superfluous.  You gain huge damage from a Liandry's as a low AP support, Twin Shadows and Rylai's give you additional slows, and a Banner would give a nice resist buff to the team, whereas Zhonya's is only going to make you tougher and give you a similar boost to damage.  You're already up to four items with Zeke's, and unless you take merc treads, your magic resistance is so low that you have to take at least one heavy survival item for AP or you can't engage because you'll be burst down against most comps regardless of having a Zhonya's.

I don't really like the idea of taking Zeke's on her anyway, Ardent Censor would give your adc a more reliable boost off your shield, and work better in combination with Zhonya's thanks to having a speed boost, and not duplicating the role of boosting your armor.  If you throw in a Ludens Echo or Liandry's on top of that, you've accomplished boosting your harass damage up pretty high, and can either tank up for the last item to be a good engage, or do something else and be counter engage/poke.  Her shield makes her a natural counter engage, since she can greatly aid in the survival of whoever is engaged on, and the range on that root is more than long enough to safely harass most teams even if you can't survive engaging.

You can't control it though, if you're on the defensive, it's only potentially useful.  If you force an engage when it comes up, and get crushed anyway, it's burning a hole in your wallet for no reason.  It's an "I'm already winning the lane anyway" item, which is probably why it's got such a high win rate and such a low pick rate.  Ardent does not require lane control, has the same CD, better mana supply thanks to 100% regen instead of a flat 250, and almost as much base AP.  Whether you're in control of the lane or on the defensive, you pop the shield off on your carry and away he goes with 30 on hit damage and 15% AS.  Most ADC's don't benefit from the AP much at all, and 50% critical strike is likely only going to be a similar damage gain to that AS boost, particularly if it's a champ that starts BOTRK instead of IE or BT.

Dependability is a plus.  Things that might help a lot versus things that will always help, Gnar is a great example of this, horribly broken power levels that just destroy teams, but he's below a 50% win rate because he gets crushed by the unreliability of his mechanics.  His percent health damage is epic, but takes three consecutive hits, and his base stats are so horrid that even building full tank, he's not particularly tanky until he changes.

I wouldn't give up on Zhonya's quite yet.  Some of the top solo queue Morg supp players still seem to build it on her quite often.  And it's still the top build on Champion.GG

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Bigninjahwang

Think you might be taking the pros builds too seriously.  They're the best of the best and will be high rank in SoloQ no matter what, so they can afford to build around the competitive meta to practice what they're going to be playing in tournies/LCS I think.

My understanding of Zeke's is that it is a must buy no matter what if your Marksman has gone 5/0 in lane and is ready to take over the game.  It's a multiplicative item so the difference in its effectiveness varies quite a bit depending on if you're supporting Doublelift, DanKnee, or me.  If you ever get paired up with a Bronze ADC in Teambuilder or have the misfortune to get Kaceytron as your 'ADC' in a Ranked game again, I would guess that building Zeke's would be a mistake in those situations.

Aegis isn't optional some games.  If their AP Mid is fed then you kinda gotta buy it.  But if their Mid is a Lulu that's doing okay, well I'd just say screw it and get started on the Zhonya's.

Also Poke Comps.  Day 2 of Worlds, Flash Wolves vs Coo Tigers.  They had Varus and Nid for the poke, Darius and GP to make countering the poke by engaging problematic (suicide) and Morgana helped with both aspects.  Zhonya's was the choice for them over Aegis and Zeke's.

Black Shield get's leveled second so the cooldown is going to be dropping once you've completed Ardent.  But Ardent is balanced around Sona I think, so I doubt it would really be amazing on anyone with a single target shield with a still relatively high CD compared to Sona's extremely short CD AOE shield...

johnny thunder is the LAST game of his promo to plat.  GL!!!