Zac Hanson? Who is that?

And a serial killer is nothing new. I wouldn't call it a war. It is hard to catch someone who basically put all of the things nessicary to do their crime. Sometimes they get caught and other times they don't.

they think he shot another one tonight. I am not sure, maybe 12 shot, 9 fatal. The one tonight is critical...

Karma....sorry 'bout the emotive hyperbole...it was a case of coming to terms with the events in Bali, combined with my 'knowing' so many good people in the US that I love and respect, and fearing for their safety in the face of testosterone-surrogate gun ownership that is rife there.
All because of a debatable interpretation of a line of the Constitution.

I'm not silly....I DO know that the vast majority of gun owners are decent, moral, responsible people....but I also know that any, and ALL guns [if opperable] have the capacity to kill, which is their intent.

The Rated PG.....sorry to disappoint, but I'm neither 'ignorant, stupid, nor engaged in 'oral deformation [sic]' [the word is defamation ].
I certainly do not 'Lie', either, and do not need to be a 'special forces' to protect the world, choosing to do it by selflessness and compassion...
I 'hope' you you are a more 'special' 'special forces' than the one who stepped on the land mine in 'Nam, making a bit of a mess of a mate of mine who as a SAS op. was seconded to the US, instead of being with his own.....took him another 30+ years to die [schrapnel/scarring complications, combined with Agent Orange] but such is life.....sometimes 'special' just ain't....

Before Newton, people thought that the natural state of an object was to be at rest. It was not logical to think of stillness as unnatural. I am afraid that after 10,000 years of recorded history, we are going to have to assume that the natural state of man is conflict, and that what we think of as 'peace' is just a sporadic lull in the fighting. We can't seem to have sporting events without people purposefully doing harm to one another. There is just too much 'spontaneous' hate in everyday life to assume that it is an unnatural thing.

Breast implants are pretty unnatural, and yet they are wildly popular, so perhaps there's hope. I'm about as emotionally low as I can get and remain healthy, myself. I'm about ready to go buy myself a new copy of Everquest and fall back off the wagon permanently... It is so much simpler in Norrath.

Makes a lot things clear to me goodmorphing, thnx

Jafo-"sorry 'bout the emotive hyperbole..." No problem. I probably took it a lot worse than you meant it. You know I'll always love you, Jafo! (Even if we don't see eye to eye on some things like this).

Oh, and if anyone wonders, My Grandfather was is WWII, my Uncle was in the Korean war, and my Father (and a lot of his friends) and one of my husband's uncles were drafted in Vietnam. They all saw the mass destruction that the weapons can do, and they all owned and used guns after the war.

I was saddened to hear that another person was shot. I am also saddened to think that the shooting might be a "copy cat" shooting. There are too many deranged people in the world.

But, as I was driving home the other day, I saw a bow hunter loading a large deer on his truck (bow and arrow deer season) and thought to myself, "I wonder if there were no guns, if the Compound bow would be the weapon of choice?" If you want to kill, I guess there is always a means of doing it.

They may have caught him! Two under arrest!

It doesn't look kike the two men had any part in the shootings (according to CNN)

I hope they get it fiqured out soon. There is talk of closing the schools here. It all sounds real iffy. I talked with one of the local deputies here and he says that he doesn't think they have caught anyone important yet.

hm, i got mixed emotions on that gun thing. but if my country would be ruled by Dick Cheney and Richard Ashcroft, having a gun doesn´t sound like such a bad idea

Sorry to hear about the recent school shooting in OZ. I guess we're rubbing off on the entire world.

hey Peff, you shouldn't be listening to CNN according to Wombat. they lie.