..... interested companies in designed skins become more popular.... more skins...... more downloads.....

my goodness, when does it end???

I don't know how it works in the US, but here in Canada, companies that are public (have stocks on the stock market) have to make their financial statements public. Otherwise privately owned companies don't have to. It's probably the same in the US, ans AFAIK Stardock isn't on the share market.

And just to be clear, anyone who is a subscriber of Object Desktop or WinCustomize should be encouraged to download to their heart's content. Just not the people using a warez/shareware copy.

No, it would translate into more cracked copies. 30 day countdowns are one of the easiest sorts of protection to crack. Far better not to have the full functionality in the trial version in the first place.

It's been said several times but ignored - if you want it, buy it. If not, then don't. If you want it without buying it, don't expect Stardock to apologise for being "evil" and give it to you.

I believe that lots and lots of sites have gone to subscription only. Wincustomize would certainly be within their rights to do that as well.

The thing that gets me about this whole thread and some of the negative views is the feeling that somehow Stardock owes you something. If you're a skinner, I respect your talent and effort and happily use and look forward to your stuff. Do I owe you something? Maybe. I've paid for UniverseMetal and think it well worth the price. OTH, some stuff I don't bother to download for free - doesn't work for me. Others might like it, that's fine.

If you think Stardock treats you unfairly as a skinner, take your stuff elsewhere. I'm quite sure I'll live without it fine and I doubt Wincustomize will suffer too much. If you think $20 is too much for a subscription, don't buy it.

In any case, stop your damn whining.

And cooking with gas sounds GREAT.

Any opposing views to yours and others is considered "whining Chef Gary? I really didn't take the too many of the replies to this thread as whining. Also, I don't think this has anything to do with paying $20 for a subscription. I think it's obvious that most have made up their minds on that issue already.

Also, keep in mind that your opinion regarding anything is no more important than anyone elses irregardless of the fact that you've paid your $8 debt to 2 skinners.

Many people have been made the point that all people are equal here, therefore where do you get off by telling anyone else to take their skins and leave instead of voicing their opinion.

Notice that in spite of your rude comments that I still didn't tell you to take your $20 skinbrowser and your suite pack and go somewhere else?

I for one can see that I HAVE LOST sight on this post. I am sorry for stating "if you don't like it, leave" this is a open site, and everybody in this fine world has their own ideas. Please enjoy the time we have been given, and enjoy what the skinners have given us to enjoy. Different people have different ideas and thoughts.

"Smile, the world loves ya"

Mike

Lecrayon...5 hours after your request for financial information I gave you a response.....that private entities are not obliged to publicly air their details.
You had your answer quite quickly, I thought...

Voicing my opinion and disagreeing with certain policies of the site make it appear that I'm superior? That's the response that I seem to get any time that I voice my opinion.

A few more points and then I'll retire for the evening.

1. Garry.....nobody is forcing you to participate in these "whiney" threads. If you don't like hearing the voice of a dissenter, then stop reading.

2. I never said that Stardock and the admins of this site didn't have the right to make whatever rules they want. I have merely pointed out a few times that there are certain issues that the majority of skinners disagree with (such as ratings, skin updates, etc). If that's being "whiney" or a "spoiled child", then certainly in your view that's what I apparently am. It's your right to think that, but to call people that here. A bit child-like in my opinion. Have I ever said if you don't change this I will pull my skins from here? No I haven't. And for several reasons; hardly anyone would miss them, and because that would be childish (much like name calling.

OK, I'm off to finish a skin which I've been working on for three weeks. That's how I contribute to the site afterall. I need to finish it so that other's may make their contribution by spending 20 seconds to download it with their $20 skinbrowser.

And one more thing, one chichi girl more or less, the company really doesn't care. If one or two turn their back it's no big deal. What it comes down to is how to maintain the "pro's". Money talks always, but not to me as I stated earlier. The so called skinssuites that soon are available have to paid for too.

"Such a big stir"? I only see one person massed at the barricades of dissent and social turmoil....

And what's with the 'after all you are only an Ozzie' quip? FYI, it's 'Aussie'... , and there's nothing particularly 'only' about them at all....

That is if that one person you meant refers to me. I didnt blame you for not knowing, but I will blame you if you knew and just didnt tell.