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a little windowblinds poll

February 7, 2002 3:06:32 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
here's a couple of questions for you. who here uses smartbuttons in windowblinds, or even knows what they are? also, does anyone actually use a vertical taskbar in windows xp? i'm never really sure whether it's worth spending the extra time on adding these things to my skins.
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Reply #1 February 7, 2002 3:32:23 PM
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I never use vertical taskbar and I don't know what smartbuttons are
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Reply #2 February 7, 2002 3:38:20 PM
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I don't use verticle taskbars and would like to know what and how smart buttons work!
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Reply #3 February 7, 2002 4:00:03 PM
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Never use vertical taskbar, rarely use smartbuttons when skins have them. A "neat" feature, just not real useful for me personally.
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Reply #4 February 7, 2002 4:36:02 PM
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It seems that we need to get a Smart Buttons task force going. I nominate grayhaze to lead it!
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Reply #5 February 7, 2002 4:57:54 PM
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I don't quite understand how smartbuttons work, although I really like skins that have a "always on top" button - but I never use the rollup feature nor any plugins (winamp WBmenus, etc.).

As for vertical taskbars, yes, I've been known to use them because sometimes I place an additonal QuickLaunch bar on the side of the screen for qick access to all my programs.
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Reply #6 February 7, 2002 6:34:46 PM
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I don't use smartbuttons, yet. I don't use a vertical toolbar myself, either, but I always provide for it in my skins.
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Reply #7 February 7, 2002 6:38:21 PM
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So...what the "smart buttons are?
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Reply #8 February 7, 2002 7:46:48 PM
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i think we've discovered a slightly worrying trend here amongst skinners...

brad... what ARE smartbuttons?
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Reply #9 February 7, 2002 7:53:47 PM
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This is pretty odd considering how much brad talked about smartbuttons being one of the greater advances in 3.x
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Reply #10 February 7, 2002 8:24:55 PM
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no doubt it is odd but until recently there have been no examples.. >
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Reply #11 February 7, 2002 9:13:46 PM
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smart buttons allowd you to change a button´s atribute/function. Example you can turn a rollup button into a on top button.
Personaly I don´t use them, because when I make a skin, I already make it with the butoons I usaully use.
I believe this could be most useful for non skining users, to change the buttons of a skin that they don´t need for another he wanted to have.
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Reply #12 February 7, 2002 9:15:11 PM
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We don't get any answers, but at least this tread has fun, in a some way
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Reply #13 February 7, 2002 9:16:25 PM
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oh! another thing...
Vertical taskbars...I use them...errr... just to set up a wb skin to see if the graphics are ok, other then that, NEVER!
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Reply #14 February 7, 2002 10:04:14 PM
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I like the smartbutton. Logika supports them and I have mine set as a URL to come to this message board. Very cool indeed....
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Reply #15 February 7, 2002 10:50:19 PM
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Don't use the vertical taskbar, just to accustomed to the horizontal one. As far as smartbuttons, I put them in for anyone that wants to use them. However, the only one that I use is the URL.
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Reply #16 February 7, 2002 10:51:17 PM
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my Z skin support smart buttons tsk tsk tsk tsk you should read sometimes hehehehe
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Reply #17 February 8, 2002 4:47:24 AM
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1. No, 'cos I don't use WindowBlinds
2. Taskbar is always at the top, set to autohide (don't need it)
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Reply #18 February 8, 2002 6:27:23 AM
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One of the most useful features of WB is the 'on-top' button...to be able to control what's visible even when focus is lost.
That, and the roll-up....[just for fun]...
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Reply #19 February 8, 2002 8:02:38 AM
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I use the vertical taskbar, 'cause I don't like my taskbar "crowded", and it is always set to autohide. Smart button used is for roll up. I don't use plug-in skins other than those found at the respective plug-in sites.
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Reply #20 February 8, 2002 11:03:11 AM
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Don't get me wrong, but what is the "roll-up"?

I know what it means, but I don't know where it is... are you talking about the maximize-minimize etc buttons?
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Reply #21 February 8, 2002 12:00:24 PM
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roll up snaps the bottom frame right below the titlebar, basically rolls up the window to the top. Some people find it useful, I don't use it much, but every time I do a new skin there are people asking for it.
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Reply #22 February 8, 2002 4:45:27 PM
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i love the smart buttons. one of the reasons i have stuck with your skins consistantly.

I wish more skin authors would use them

If i could figure out this damn skin studio, i would use them as well.
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Reply #23 February 8, 2002 7:33:03 PM
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i guess mostly i just don't include smartbutton support because, aside from URL shortcuts, i already include all the features like roll-ups and always-on-top as standard buttons. maybe one day when someone shows me the point of having the same URL shortcut on every single window, i might just start to use them...
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Reply #24 February 8, 2002 11:15:25 PM
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I think you should, it would allowed people to disable some buttons they don't want.
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Reply #25 February 9, 2002 7:25:17 AM
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that's why i include at least three different versions of each skin. if someone doesn't want the extra functionality of rollup and a.o.t, they can just use the 'simple' version of the skin. i guess in theory smart buttons are a good idea, but in my opinion until there are a lot more windowblinds plugins, there's really not much use for them other than as a curiosity.
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