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Any mechanics in the house??

Real .. ones?

May 2, 2012 10:32:32 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums

Having an issue with my 89 camry, something to do with the drive train.

If anyone knows what the hell they are doing I would love some interaction... losing my mind.

I've taken it to 3 diff. mechanics and heard 3 different diagnosis'

 

Pipe up if you think you may be able to help me, and I'll explain the issue.

 

Thanks in advance...

 

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Reply #1 May 2, 2012 10:45:15 PM
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you might consider trying these guys. www.cartalk.com.

 

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Reply #2 May 2, 2012 11:31:15 PM
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Excellent suggestion.

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Reply #3 May 3, 2012 1:40:32 AM
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What's the issue?

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Reply #4 May 3, 2012 5:53:45 AM
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Edit: John...you have a PM

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Reply #5 May 3, 2012 12:17:08 PM
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Quoting DrJBHL,
reply 2
Excellent suggestion.

wise words from the doc......  

 

 

Git 'er fixed....  

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Reply #6 May 3, 2012 2:28:25 PM
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Hopefully Carguy and I can have a chat this eve.. if we cant get it sorted, I'll def. be picking your brain too yrag.

This is basically the issue tho... a pulsating grinding, quite loud noise starting at about 33 mph and coming from the general area of teh passenger CV axle.. thing is.. we just replaced the cv axle and its making the same noise.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nzcNpCj_hI  you can here it best after 0:17... its a LOT louder in the car than on video.

 

89 camry with splined CV axle (not bolted)

 

Thank you everyone for your help.

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Reply #7 May 3, 2012 3:01:10 PM
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....tough to tell by phone,  but it sounds like a stripped spindle.

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Reply #8 May 3, 2012 3:13:56 PM
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Its actually a camera, but for some reason the audio is just shocking..

In this video, it show how the mid-shaft bearing is basically inside the motor mount, now, my camry is a year younger than the one show here... but i know that bearing on the CV axle is inside some kind of similar mount looking thing, I dont know if its a motor mount.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAX4K1Btt0o  0.45 secs.

 

Is it possible that mount is warped, or.. bad.. or something and the bearing on the axle is gringin on it, or spinning offcenter or something?

 

Not sure what a spindle is?

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Reply #9 May 3, 2012 3:21:48 PM
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Quoting yrag,
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....tough to tell by phone,  but it sounds like a stripped spindle.

WTF Yrag... you seem to know all about OS/PC issues and now you're going to tell us you are an automotive Einstein as well?

 

I hope your next BM comes out sideways....

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Reply #10 May 3, 2012 3:42:19 PM
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Quoting Phoon,
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I hope your next BM comes out sideways....

As a BM...W?

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Reply #11 May 3, 2012 4:06:48 PM
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Ouch!

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Reply #12 May 3, 2012 8:54:02 PM
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Things to help diagnose...

Does it happen/change under cornering loads...?

....applying the brake?

....same speed but different gears?

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Reply #13 May 3, 2012 8:54:32 PM
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I believe there is nothing yrag doesn't know . . there are just things he hasn't told us yet.

 

 

 

 

http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html

 

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Reply #14 May 3, 2012 11:08:11 PM
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2 things:

1: @ 3:16 into the video, that 'thing' hanging down is a spindle (axle spline). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2008-04-23_Axle_splines.jpg 

    (they're also in the transfer/reduction cases and pumpkins.)

2: get rid of the fuckin' car.

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Reply #15 May 4, 2012 1:37:22 AM
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Quoting yrag,
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2: get rid of the fuckin' car.

Was gonna say that....at 23 years old ...and Toyotas aren't going to be classic/collectors....

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Reply #16 May 4, 2012 6:56:08 AM
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Quoting vStyler,
reply 8
Is it possible that mount is warped

it would break first, not much flexability.

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Reply #17 May 4, 2012 7:07:13 AM
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Quoting Zubaz,
reply 13
I believe there is nothing yrag doesn't know . . there are just things he hasn't told us yet.

 

 

 

 

http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html[/quote]

That explains it.

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Reply #18 May 4, 2012 7:20:29 AM
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Quoting yrag,
reply 14
2 things:

1: @ 3:16 into the video, that 'thing' hanging down is a spindle (axle spline). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2008-04-23_Axle_splines.jpg 

    (they're also in the transfer/reduction cases and pumpkins.)

2: get rid of the fuckin' car.

 

1. That entire assembly, (CV joint, spindle, etc.) was just replaced and is brand new.

2. If only he had that luxury. Getting rid of the car is not an option. John also just had the engine rebuilt from the ground up.

 

Some people simply cannot afford what others can afford.

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Reply #19 May 4, 2012 7:35:14 AM
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1. Drive North about 4 or 5 hundred miles where there are some good mechanics. Not just 80 year old retired Flordia mechanics trying to remember what they use to know.

2. Bite the bullet and take it to a dealer to find out what is wrong with it. Ince you are totally sure of the problem you can always go to a smaller machanic to have it fixed at a better price.

3. I can understand sometimes there are sentimental reasons for keeping things. If there isn't really one as someone else said get rid of the damn thing and drive one that lets say is only 15 years old instead of 23. If there is a sentimental reason for keeping it, wrap it in plastic so you can look at it everyday and still get a car that will run without having to ware ear plugs,

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Reply #20 May 4, 2012 7:36:59 AM
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Reply #6

sounds like what I just fixed on My 2001 Daewoo  Front Wheel Bearings.

 

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Reply #21 May 4, 2012 7:39:06 AM
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Quoting sydneysiders,
reply 5

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 2Excellent suggestion.

wise words from the doc......    
 

Git 'er fixed....  

 

The "auto doc" graphic in Syd's post gave me an idea:

Maybe decreasing the cost, while increasing the likelihood of finding the source of the problem will come from locating the source of the sound as precisely as John can.

To do that, a mechanic's stethoscope might be in order:

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=mechanic's+stethoscope#q=mechanic's+stethoscope&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=L7-jT6-VLo-40QH7x-3ICQ&ved=0CNkBEK0E&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=88ee5c93dfdbc558&biw=1920&bih=955

 

Just a thought....

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Reply #22 May 4, 2012 9:15:11 AM
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Quoting LightStar,
reply 18
2. If only he had that luxury. Getting rid of the car is not an option. John also just had the engine rebuilt from the ground up.

Some people simply cannot afford what others can afford.

There comes a time when 'economy' means letting go of the 'lemon'.

If a car needed a full engine rebuild it's god's way of saying 'time to move on'.

....and it's cheaper.

 

I have NEVER owned a new car.....and the best condition/quality/youngest of them all was/is the current one.

Has all the bells and whistles.... 5 star ANCAP [without airbags] and cost 3 grand ..... less than a lot of cars' 'full engine rebuilds'...

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Reply #23 May 4, 2012 9:15:39 AM
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....and dollar for dollar....the cheapest.

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Reply #24 May 4, 2012 9:15:53 AM
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Quoting DaveBax,
reply 19
1. Drive North about 4 or 5 hundred miles where there are some good mechanics. Not just 80 year old retired Flordia mechanics trying to remember what they use to know.

2. Bite the bullet and take it to a dealer to find out what is wrong with it. Ince you are totally sure of the problem you can always go to a smaller machanic to have it fixed at a better price.

3. I can understand sometimes there are sentimental reasons for keeping things. If there isn't really one as someone else said get rid of the damn thing and drive one that lets say is only 15 years old instead of 23. If there is a sentimental reason for keeping it, wrap it in plastic so you can look at it everyday and still get a car that will run without having to ware ear plugs,

 

I don't think you understand Dave, he cannot afford another car. He also could not afford to get his car fixed even if he did know what the problem is. It is costing him money he does not have just to even track down what the problem is. Buying another car is not an option at all. He has another vehicle, but it eats gas like crazy and needs new tires as there is thread showing on them. Again, he cannot afford new tires even.

 

He is just trying with the least expense to try and figure the problem out, and he is probably going to be really pissed at me for saying these things as he asked me not to, but I am just stating the facts.

 

Hi John my friend!

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Reply #25 May 4, 2012 9:20:36 AM
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Quoting Jafo,
reply 22

Quoting LightStar, reply 182. If only he had that luxury. Getting rid of the car is not an option. John also just had the engine rebuilt from the ground up.

Some people simply cannot afford what others can afford.

There comes a time when 'economy' means letting go of the 'lemon'.

If a car needed a full engine rebuild it's god's way of saying 'time to move on'.

....and it's cheaper.

 

I have NEVER owned a new car.....and the best condition/quality/youngest of them all was/is the current one.

Has all the bells and whistles.... 5 star ANCAP [without airbags] and cost 3 grand ..... less than a lot of cars' 'full engine rebuilds'...

 

He had the rebuild of the engine done for a LOT less than 3 grand Jafo. Another car is not an option as I said, even a $500 car is out of the question.

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