Brad, yes....there-in lies the rub.  Even doing one's darnedest to be PC with energy fails to deliver in the way it really 'should do'.

One of the early uses for 'active' solar [In Australia] was with Hot Water sevices....only issue was that at BEST they took 10 years to cover costs....and being boilers they were REQUIRED to be replaced every....wait for it..... 10 years.

Kinda self-defeating.

Australia has the dubious 'honour' of having the largest median house size on the planet - and the logical solution to limiting/reducing energy use is to 'try to' convince users that houses can be quite survivable when smaller.  An average house can easily be reduced by 30% in size and still accommodate people 'adequately'....and the reduction in 'envelope' benefits all at all levels of energy use from manufacture to construction to on-going sustainability.

Legislation brings in all sorts of requirements these days for 'Energy Ratings' on dwellings..... and it's probably of note that the first, true 'environmentally competent' Public Building was/is the Melbourne City Council offices here in Oz.

Where practical it's often just simplest to 'think small'....

Eventually.

And decidedly sooner than a Prius....which fails miserably as its life is finite....

The most important thing you achieve when investing in solar panels is increasing the demand for solar power, motivating further research. It's a good deed you did.

This doesn't prove anything by itself. I'm not saying that solar energy is necessarily a bad decision (although I'm quite a bit more on the side of nuclear power), but the fact that a large scale deal has been signed could just as well mean that someone made a bad investment on a large scale .

My concerns, though, aren't on the energy cost of making solar panel arrays (although I do think it is an issue), but the harmful chemicals involved in the making of solar panels. Hence my question: is there any indication of the ecological cost of the making of these panels, beyond the energy it takes to make them?

Anyway, I still believe the way to go is home thermal insulation + a good pair of snickers when going to a place less than a mile away .

Thanks for posting the details and some pics!

This seems ridiculous.  Don't you live in some frozen tundra of Near-Canadia? 

Thanks a ton Sir for actually taking the plunge and investing in Solar Power.
I'm quite amazed (and not in a positive way) about the price you had to pay for it (unless it was a hugely custom system, and even then...).

If the 20,1 KW you mention is actually KW/p which I think you are hinting at, you payed 9950 US $ per KW/p and about 5000 US $ per KW/p from your end which whould translate to about 7800 / 3900 € per KW/p by todays US$/€-exchange rate.

Is that a common example of how expensive PV-Panels / installations of Size ~ 20 KW/p are in the US by 2011?

Coming from the country mentioned in the link of the above post from DrJBHL and being quite interested in the field myself.
To give you an example where my amazement is coming from: Average small to medium size for Installations Rooftop (10-30 KW/p) here are by end of last year, offers priced around 1800 € (translates to around 2300 US $) meridian according to "Photon" solar trade journal (admittedly they were at around 5000€ per KW/p just about 5 years ago with the bulk of the reduction happening in the last 3 years with about a 40% cut or more each year) . Ground Level-Installations on a large scale considerably less thanks to lower feed-in-tarif (which is most of the existing support, only minor other subsidies.). and economy of scale

The efficiency of Sunpower Cells sure is very nice though (current record holder of module efficiency on industrial-scale modules if I'm not mistaken with around ~20%)

No wonder it takes such a long time to pay back from a purely financial standpoint. Hope that will change soon for you in the US (which is rather likely given the large flow of modules flooding the markets from China and the pressure from there.)



@ DrJBHL: If you are interested in it, the main surge of renewable installations
(coming from below 3% of our electric Power mix to currently around 20% and mounting fast)
was after the Erneuerbare-Energien-Gesetz EEG got passed into law
(roughly translates into Renewable-Energy-Law, it was passed in 2000 following up on the Stromeinspeisegesetz from 1991 which rougly translates to electric Power feed-in law and the 100000-rooftop programme Everything before it is "merly" mostly scientific support not industrial scale application.).
on a parliament initiative bypassing our Government at the time and subsequently surviving all attempts to shot it down
(which continue to this day and have at least made the former simple Law so complicated that only a few niche lawyers understand it, even if the core aims and methods remain functional to this day to great effect)
not least thanks to its success and (wide and still mounting) support from the party who is footing the bill (up until the start of this year most users of energy paid per used KW/h of electrical energy used, excluding extreme users in the industry sector, recently additionally excluding lots of medium to large energy consumers in the industry sector as well.) and effects of large regional benefits to employment and public finance (community level mostly).
Players in the renewable energy industry/community are well on our way talking about an alternative energy system now (consisting mainly of fluctuating sources, propped up by fast reacting generators like gas-fired turbines and storage which unlike generation has quite a way to go) compared to the existing power system based mainly on large must-run units (which except for Gas-fired Power-Stations are not well compatible to fluctuating sources of renewable energies on a nationwide scale. Since they have to run all the time to be financially or in the case of nuclear technically possible)
inevitably leading to a conflict of non-compatible systems now that the threshold which the old system can bear without breaking technically, financially and by infrastructure is about to be passed (30% is what some sources say the current infrastructure can bear at most without adapting to the new sources in a major way. Many gauge it to be less than that.). Since the 4 big oligoplist energy suppliers here fight the change tooth and claw. Because it probably means they will cease to exist.
In the late 60s and early 70s nuclear was the new and prefered method to generate electric power pushed by the government (being disliked by the population here more or less from the start with ever growing passion.)
So no plan from start to finish here. Ongoing bitter struggle and development beyond the wildest dreams of even the most optimistic actors in the PV industry/renewables industry itself describes it better (Germany's big Module- and Cell manufacturers currently go down the drain though. Unable to compete with prices of Chinese-Made modules and sadly recently even in quality by some accounts... Most profit, jobs and benefits are with the local craftspeople and PV-Owners though. Hence the above being tragic but not likely to stop the expanded use of renewables here.).

Current estimates for 2011 in newly installed PV-Power (for the year) is about 7,5 GW/p (according to the federal energy grid agency) which is bound to lead to some considerable political turmoil given our current government (or at least the federal industry ministry in struggle with the environment ministry) has tried to curb the ammount installed and is fearing the ammount it will cost the people who have to foot the bill (which oddly seem more afraid of other things like large nuclear and coal fired power blocks... Which they in large numbers on the streets demand closed or prevent being built, project by project, protest by protest).

Sorry for any grammar/spelling issues in advance. Not a native speaker.

Great work Brad.  Me and my significant other were just talking about solar-powering the next farm earlier today, and also the possible harnessing of potential wind energy as well.

We still have sunlight in the "tundra"

I got my first bill from DTE since switching it over. The holiday stuff jacked up our power use a lot so this is atypical but this is what it netted:

Net usage: 1,920 KWH @ $0.13 per KWH 
Supply back to grid: 546 KWH @ $0.11 per KWH

Bill: $189.54

The Net usage means I actually used more than 1,920KWH (embarassingly enough). It's just that the solar panels during the day absorbed some of that and still had 546 left. During cloudy days and at night is when the 1920KWH came in.

Typically we run at about half that (before taking solar into account) so it'll be interesting to see what January brings.