Hi l0c!
(have not spoken to you in a while)
Doreen runs outta thread trying to keep outta this stuff...

Just wanted to say hello to "you"! hehe

You don't really know anything about the meaning of the word "nazi". If you did then you would never say such a thing. You have gone to far.

l0c, your "nazi" characterization above is way out of line.

We have a long standing tradition on the Stardock newsgroups of not allowing personal attacks. As WinCustomize is largely funded by Stardock, it is incumbent upon us to have some semblance of that here, especially when statements could be construed by others as libel, slander, or otherwise defaming.

I don't know who's right or wrong with regards to the original thread, but there are lines that once crossed, appear differently once people reflect on them.

Your opinions and those of others are part of what makes this such an interesting community, but I will start dropping posts myself if things start to turn into a free-for-all match here.

I was one of the participants on that news item and Mr. l0c isn't telling the whole story or even the truth.
His post was called TGTSoft violates DMCA and accused TGTSoft of breaking the law and that they could be facing jail time.
l0c and Frogboy were on the same side in the ensuing debate against warez d00ds that jumped on defending TGTSoft's patching of WinXP system DLLs.
Some of the 'other side' pointed out that it looks mighty unsavory for a site owned by Stardock to have a news item that may be slandering another company.
Frogboy responded by saying something to the effect that the news item was created by l0c, not him and l0c isn't affiliated with Stardock.
Grinnder responded to that by saying it doesn't matter, news items are officially sanctioned things aren't they?
Frogboy then said that unless l0c was able to substantiate his claim that TGTSoft was breaking the law he would need to delete the news item.
l0c didn't so apparently Frogboy deleted the news item.

loc you are an infant. grow up.

10c: Calling someone on our cummunity like you did is total unrespect to us. I feel ofended by your thread.

Hmmm, sounds like the real slander going on is that l0c is calling people nazi's. And the last I remember slander is illegal.

Im not inclined to offer oppinions on what the news post said or not because I just skimmed it once but.. I must say (and shoot me if you must) but Greg is a long time friend of mine and a valued member of this community , no hes not a skinner but hes a huge contributer. I read his comment "nazi" to basicly just point out what he seen as Brad deleting what he thought was a legit news post.

I dont think the reffrence to Nazi was intended to make Brad out to be a killer like Hitler.

I know the word nazi will definatly offend people but I really think that you guys are putting too much into it. Im sure that even Greg probably sees his poor choice of words. cut him some slack.

Master Crumbut: If I was Brad then I would be offended. And if l0c in the heat of the battle made a "nazi" typo then he would apologize in public. He didn't do that did he?

I agree with you Tandis, Brad is a human too and he has feelings too. I think enough is enough, people should be carefull before saying things that can hurt like this

Crumbut, Brad is always the target. Brad has feelings too. We can't let things like that happend and say nothing everytime. l0c knows the situation. He should be the first to understand this and to not post this kind of threads like that. Sorry I usually don't participate to this kind of post but enough is enough. Things has to slow down a little, if I was Brad I would not be able to sleep all night long, this kind of post hurts feelings.

hey chad :] i won't flame you, we go back too far for that. all i'll say is that i'm disappointed in loc's attitude about this entire issue. that stands out in my mind a lot more than bandying about epithets.

he and jier obviously have a similar mind on this [and many other issues outside skinning, since they're now living under one roof.] i've talked to both of them before, many times with loc on irc, and i've interviewed jier for tek.

one thing that surprises me, regardless of opinion, is the devisiveness. i had thought both were in favor of promoting gui customisation as an art form. how can tearing down the image of one of the main tools in that genre help this? i would hate to think that this art form has merely become a venue for exercising ones hubris over their coding skills.

also, it's not possible to deny the obvious animosity from both jier and greg in the news/discussion thread at da. where is this coming from? is stardock, in the person of brad, merely seen now as part of the greater faceless 'establishment?' i, for one, expected more presence of forethought.

on the question of censorship though, this specific situation doesn't really apply. accusing people of criminal wrongdoing in public can result in a lot of unpleasantness, and isn't exactly legal. in a case like this, it's required of the responsible party to make sure legal rights aren't infringed upon. for example, a tv station, even after a disclaimer like '..their viewpoints don't necessarily express..' will still be very wary of anyone making criminal accusations on the air :]

l0c: i dont know what your problem is as of late but it needs to stop. first you submit a derogatory and threatening news article to deviantART then you start in with this Nazi stuff. you need to either take a break or just get lost all-together.

...in fact, you WILL be gone from DA.