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June 14, 2011 11:18:20 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums

Just incredible!!    

throws it 'round like a toy...

 

This is a video of a stunt pilot who, in real life, is a Delta Airlines pilot.  His act at air shows is to pretend that he is a drunken spectator who rushes from the stands and jumps into a Piper Cub and takes off without any understanding of how to fly a plane.

The Piper Cub is actually specifically built to withstand an enormous amount of stress and has a very powerful engine.
This type of stunt is actually the most dangerous of air show acts, because of the low altitude at which the pilot performs.
Obviously, this pilot possesses unbelievable skill.


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Reply #1 June 15, 2011 12:39:50 AM
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I cant blv they let a drunk guy fly!!!!

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Reply #2 June 15, 2011 12:53:56 AM
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Marvelous!

Ty, Syddie.  

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Reply #3 June 15, 2011 12:58:43 AM
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WOW! I was thinking the whole time that the plane was gonna fall apart.

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Reply #4 June 15, 2011 1:31:45 AM
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If you want 'incredible' ...this is it...

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Reply #5 June 15, 2011 1:37:30 AM
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"throws it 'round like a toy..."

Love the landing ...

 

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Reply #6 June 15, 2011 1:51:25 AM
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He must have paid off the gods for that one !! -And 2 cool Sydney ! 

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Reply #7 June 15, 2011 5:51:03 AM
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I like the way he 'walked' that plane on two wheels. He's nuts.

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Reply #8 June 15, 2011 11:25:25 AM
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Quoting Jafo,
reply 4
If you want 'incredible' ...this is it.
    Now, that pilot has some serious skills...and got  lucky too. 

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Reply #9 June 15, 2011 11:31:40 AM
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That was me

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Reply #10 June 15, 2011 12:03:51 PM
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Quoting Jafo,
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If you want 'incredible' ...this is it...

That is one amazing pilot... and as lucky as all heck!

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Reply #11 June 15, 2011 5:51:07 PM
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Quoting DrJBHL,
reply 10
If you want 'incredible' ...this is it...

 

almost looks fake

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Reply #12 June 15, 2011 7:14:21 PM
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almost looks fake

When a plane has more thrust than weight it 'needs' wings just as much as a helicopter needs them....

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Reply #13 June 15, 2011 8:33:02 PM
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actually, i just meant the landing...

there was  series of commercials over here in the US.. that showed 'incredible' things caught on tape... of course as real as they claimed to be, they weren't and while everything in this video looks authetic, the landing.. doesn't...

 

Fool me once....

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Reply #14 June 15, 2011 9:34:40 PM
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It is not real guys. It is a fake and I can't believe I even need to say it. Just read the caption on youtube and you will see its not real and could never be real unless of course you believe in miracles.

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Reply #15 June 15, 2011 10:13:41 PM
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If you can go ballistic it can be done....

F105s in 'Nam had a high attrition rate...but some of them got back with various 'bits' missing....usually bits of tail, thanks to IR missiles chasing the AB....

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Reply #16 June 15, 2011 10:30:01 PM
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reply 15


If you can go ballistic it can be done....

F105s in 'Nam had a high attrition rate...but some of them got back with various 'bits' missing....usually bits of tail, thanks to IR missiles chasing the AB....

Yes Jafo what you say is true but we are talking about an entire wing on a prop plane and that cannot be done. For one thing you and I know that lift for an airplane is generated by air moving over the wings. Not only was that plane missing one wing (so half of the lift was lost) but the plane itself was moving far to slow to even generate lift with 2 wings. If that really had happened the pilot would not be able to control the plane at all and it would spiral straight down into the ground.

As vStyler said it looked fake because it is fake.

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Reply #17 June 15, 2011 10:53:45 PM
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For one thing you and I know that lift for an airplane is generated by air moving over the wings.

Yes, but essentially helicopters fly 'ballistically'.  They have no 'wings', prop-thrust provides lift.  The 'dynamics' of the RC plane were legitimate [it did fly with one wing] and viable...it's only whether that particular real aircraft could match the thrust/weight ratio of the RC.... which is unlikely.

Jet aircraft are far more likely to have a thrust that exceeds weight...eg SU27 that manages 'hand-brake' turns in flight .... empty weight is around 36000lb and AB thrust is about 55 thou.  It'll definitely go ballistic till it runs out of 'puff' [air intake at altitude].  The F15 isn't much different...

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Reply #18 June 15, 2011 11:10:09 PM
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I should mention I've strained the odd neck muscle or three at various Grands Prix watching the Aussie F18s do their 'departures' at the end of the display...typically straight up, slow roll ....levelling out somewhere around 20,000 feet and then off back home....always impressive....

Not an 18.... but an RAAF F111 .... and a sexy shot, too...

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Reply #19 June 15, 2011 11:20:13 PM
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The IDF produces some amazing pilots.... Tzvi Nadivi is just one of many.

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Reply #20 June 15, 2011 11:22:07 PM
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Jafo are you seriously comparing a helicopter with a plane? If a plane had a big enough engine to produce enough thrust with its small prop and the pilot could control it with out a tail rotor, landing it like a helicopter would mean it would have to land on its tail and not its tires. I know the point your making but if you listen to the video the explanation given as to why the F15 could fly without a wing was because of its wide body. Essentially it is a missile and could probably stay airborne and maybe even land without any wings do to the design of its body.

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Reply #21 June 16, 2011 12:37:25 AM
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Quoting JuniorCrooks,
reply 20
Jafo are you seriously comparing a helicopter with a plane?

Yes...both are propelled....and both by 'props'...hence the name.  One MUST have 'thrust' that exceeds weight...the other does not NEED to.

Whether a plane has a wide body or not only affects 'glide ratio'.  The best/worst 'glide ratio' in 'modern times' was the F104 .... some twit forgot to bother with wings at all [almost] so landing was inherently 'problematic' and why it's killed more of its own pilots than any plane has.  The higher the wing-loading the more 'ballistic' the aircraft needs to be able to approach.

As for tail rotors to react against yaw [helicopters] or roll [aircraft] there are other solutions...vectored thrust is a recent preference....twin contra-rotating props was an earlier trend.

There ARE high-output contra aircraft that could quite possibly emulate the RC plane's efforts... no torque issues at all....

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