hehe just to see what it looks like

better than the bar being closed

It all depends on just how many people we really want to get upset.
If the bar were properly raised to a truly 'exclusive' level, a large number of artists would have nothing accepted at all.

If you wish, the cull can be more brutal, and a lot of egos will suffer.

It is a delicate, thin line between 'art' and 'wallpaper'...some walls may be a little 'simplistic' or even 'naive', but can be valid wallpapers, found popular by many.

I personally can get a lot more brutal.
I could maintain the cull to about 500 as a consistent number of walls...as more come and are better than those there already, maybe others then get kicked, maintaining the total.

To give an example of how aggressive I would/could be, click on my name.
I have two 'walls', very average popularity, but rating a '7' and a '9'.
They are very definitely 'artwork', as they both were actually painted water-colours, and only afterwards, manipulated on computer.
They show a certain ability....
BUT...
They don't necessarily work as walls.
Why?
Subject matter, I assume, hence the unwild download number.

They would be culled by me, because although they may have had more effort in their creation than a blue swirlie with 'XP' slapped on it, they don't seem to cut it as wallpapers.

I won't play favourites, you realize.
Even those of you able to upload without going through the moderation process can be moderated.
I have been through the ENTIRE wall section 3 times in the past week.
I know it well.
28 existing walls met their waterloo yesterday.

Just say the word.
Call it the night of the long knives.....
It can be done.

But it will hurt a little.

Opinions?.....

Let's not be too brutal.

When I look at a wallpaper I make 2 judgements:

1) Does it make a GOOD wallpaper -- i.e. is it usable? if the answer is yes, then it can be something relatively simple and bland.

2) If it's not a super great wallpaper, then the artwork quality has to be much greater. Scenery, for instance, had better be pretty freakin good scenery to survive when I do my occasional moderation.

hehe

raise the bar too high and only (3) artist I know of will get em in! =/

I deleted two of my walls from the site yesterday. They had been rated once, and given a score of 1. I was sad to see them rated that way, as I don't really believe my work is that bad, but I deleted them anyway.
This is why I hate this rating system, especially as it's anonymous. If people had to leave their name with their rating I believe they would not rate at all, as there would be questions asked of them if they rated something ridiculously low for no apparent reason. Please get rid of the ratings, or make people leave their names when they do.
I was so ashamed to receive a rating of 1, that I am considering just doing my DX themes, and not upping any more walls. How can I call myself a Journeyman, if I can only get a rating of 1 on something that took me 12 hours to make?

That's a real shame BoXXi....there's NO-WAY that any of your work deserves to get a rating of 1 !!!!! ....Whoever gave you that rating should not be able to rate anymore!!

Rating something requires a fair amount of thought before you hit the button i think.....if you don't have the maturity to do it properly then don't do it at all!!

No Alex, I did make a couple of joke XP walls a while ago, and even they are rated o.k.

OK, Bryan...had a closer look at your walls..just to see what was happening. Some of them had no 'actual' rating, only getting the default Journeyman-number'5' when you upload.
I have been though most of 'em and checked to see that I have rated, and/or commented.
Gee you have a lot of walls....

Apologies for the spelling...It was a long day....

David,
My post subject = So much for the bar being raised
My content = on wall submissions... That would be the point. Shall I post your email response to a skinner verbatim? I've been to your site and your work is awesome to say the least but to someone like say Frank Frazetta your work would be "amatuerish". The guidlines talked about the other day were loosely based around moderating "quickie filter fests" and work created with 3d applications in obviously "under 3 minutes"...and I think the majority would be happy to have those culled. In my "opinion", that standard has not been in use the last few days...Here's my suggestion for the moderations. Let all the walls through. If they don't get 300 downloads in 5 days they get whacked by a script. Easy peasy japaneesy. Just out of curiosity, how many walls get modded per day on average?

DJ

c'mon, the vomit thing is cool

Treedog, I am quite sure David is as you say he is. He would not hold the stature in the community he possesses if otherwise. There are behind the scenes issues with another Citizen. I have seen the e-mail in question and it is quite as I described it. I have also seen the wall that was moderated. Based on what gets posted here daily, it did not deserve moderation nor the comments in the rejection e-mail. I have absolutely no issues with David personally, just opinions on the apparent lack of consistancy with the moderations. You opinion is noted and respected. Please state your views on the moderation procedure. Your opinion means a lot given your quality of skin submissions.