I had this problem, and I got it to work somehow through messing with margins, but I'm afraid I didn't figure out the reason or a way to make it work all the time. I think it's related to if the rolled up state is set too small to accomodate the edges, and I _think_ I got round it by just increasing the rolled up size and making sure the top/bottom graphics worked at the slightly bigger rollup.

...try it, increase the rolled up size and see if it stops. I'm just about to get to that stage with the skin I'm working on now, so I'd appreciate your results in advance

What are your screen edge clip settings on the bottom? I set mine to 0, and everything shows ok, give that a try Or a combination of the left and bottom.



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I think it's related to tiling margins on the sides. If a margin is set bigger than than the height of the rolled up window, you'll see chunks missing.

Ok, the skin I'm working on now has it's window frames done, and I hit this problem again. I increased the rollup hight to be the top frame+ the bottom frame height, and it all works hunky dory now.

There could be an interaction with the bottom edge sizing margins on the left/right frames, but since I have them set to the same size as the bottom frame (because that's how the design works) I can't tell.

Anyhow...if the design doesn't fit making the roll-up this big, then that's a problem. Mine currently doesn't, but I may have to compromise and have a rollup which isn't perfect one way or the other...

Hang on...it actaully gets "cliped" in the corner once there is no space for any bottom frame pixels. I.E. when the window gets to be exactly the same height as the top frame, then the bottom left of the left frame gets the bottom size margin clipped.

So, as long as the rollup height is at least 1px more than the top frame height, the left frame isn't clipped...at elast, that's how it seems to work for this skin at the moment...but again, it could be the bottom size margin on the left frame that determines when it happens....

clear as mud? Maybe someone could write this up after testing it more exhaustively and submit it to SD on the newsgroups and update this thread when they get a reply?

Thank you Mark! "add area to border" in "Painting options" did the trick! Koasati hands the Hipster a beer!

Now I'll be kicking myself in the butt all day for not thinking of that.........
This will be added to the WB/SS doc thread as soon as I figure how to word it in a non-confuzzling manner.

Still I wonder why I never have any trouble with the right side............

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Think what you want......... nothing else worked, the button does.

Create a new titlebar button.
Set the visibilty setting so that it only appears when the window is rolled up.
Add an extra visibility setting that sets it 'adds to border'
The image for it should display the area of the skin that's missing on rollup.
The alignment should be that it's positioned over the missing area.
And finally, set the buttons click function to no click and 'passes messages to the titlebar'

After that it should fix it for you.

Thanks Mark

and Randy
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Essencay - cool, I knew what I said worked as I've done it 3 times with my own skins now, and 2 or three times "fixing" others that I wanted to use - but the problem is if the design doesn't work well when rolled up that big, as you often can't make the rolled up state as compressed if you have to leave the bottom/top frame re-size margins visible....what would be cool is either a) this quirk is fixed in WB (though it's been there for ages), a separate "rolled up" image is allowed for the left/right frames.

I actually prefer the 2nd option in a way as that way you could design things to look different rolled up, and that could open up new possibilities

...though, the glitch ought to be addressed anyhow. In the mean time, I'm sticking with window frames designed to be rolled up without the glitch to avoid all the complicated extra button malarky

I actually prefer the 2nd option in a way as that way you could design things to look different rolled up, and that could open up new possibilities

Sput - Lost me here....I didn't give two options...just two steps to the solution

I think that might be a nice feature

Yeah I agree.