We know how to make it work,...we want to know WHY is it different on different systems.It seems to be one way forWB4 and another for WB4.1.So far everyone with WB4 can use 150.Everyone with WB 4.1 needs 152!This is a major drag when your designing a skin!

now i'm just tryin to help and i can use both versions since i changed the image in 152. before i did this, it was offset like you said,and could only use 150!! but if you have your start panel with images of two different proportions of course it is going to be different, ie. (150 measures 190 x 150) and (152's panel measures out to 190 x 152). make both versions the same and see what happens... didn't mean to say that you did not know how to make it work!!

more programs image isn't what is messed up, its the right side places.bmp that is different in each one
just checked to make sure, and both of those images are the same(more program image) check the right panel in each version and you will see they are different sizes!!

They are different in each one on purpose.It is the height of the more programs graphic that we are trying to line up TO.(with the different "programs "graphics.)(thats why one is called 150 and one is called 152).If the "more programs graphic is 28 pixels tall then the "150 "version works.If it is 30 (like on myPC),then it HAS to be the 152 version.We think its because I am still using WB4,not 4.1.Now does it make sense?

ok i just sent you a graphic to put into 150 along with the 28 pixel more prog graphic, and use these sizing margin settings 0, 170, 2, 36 for the places graphic and 150 and 152 now work on my system with either the 28 or 30, thats all i can do to help sorry...

I probably caused this confusion by having Places150 and Places152 both use a MoreProg size of 30.
Here's where it started:
Romulus is sized like this
Prog is 190X122
MoreProg is 190X28
BottomBar is 380X40
making a total height of 190 (This is the left side of the UserPanel)

Places is 190X150
BottomBar is 380X40
making a total height of 190 (This is the right side of the UserPanel)

The alignment is correct on mine (I'm using WB4.1) but it is not aligned on Brainiacs and others (Brainiac is using WB4.0)

He resized the pieces like this:
Prog is 190X122
MoreProg is 190X30
BottomBar is 380X40
making a total height of 192 (This is the left side of the UserPanel)

Places is 190X152
BottomBar is 380X40
making a total height of 192 (This is the right side of the UserPanel)
This makes the alignment correct on his but mis-aligned on mine. I took the Places back down to 150 high but left the MoreProg at 30 and it was aligned on mine. Now this was odd because that left the right and left sides of the UserPanel at 190 and 192 high respectively. Doesn't seem that it should have worked, but it did on mine. It was mis-aligned on his with that odd sizing.

So, as Brainiac said, we were trying to correlate the problem to WB version. We can fix the problem to work, but need to know what works for what system or version. My theory is that WB versions earlier than 4.1 must have a MoreProg graphic of 30 high for proper alignment, but 4.1 needs 28 high.
I've been using the UserPanel template provided by Hippy (thanks, Hippy!) but this is the first time I've seen this problem come up. But this is also the first time I've made 'edges' to the parts in my UserPanel that didn't correspond to the normal sizes of those items.

So, a better test may be to compare Romulus to Places152 and see which is aligned properly. Then let us know which one worked and what version of WB you are using.


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Crap! it was late...# 27 I got exactly backwards.Stephen ,Im not helping much am I? >

At least you know why, and if I might make a suggestion, make a readme for the wba and include both a 28 and a 30 graphic so users of older wb can set it up the way it needs to be, that might work instead two versions like you said...

Wont work...still wont line up unless the "places "graphic is made to line up with either 28 or 30.The best you could do would be to have a subskin for the different versions,but why?This shouldnt be happening.Most people wouldnt bother to figure out the difference.They would just assume you had a problem with your skin and load something else.

The real problem here is not how to make it work(we know how to do that),it is why are we even having a problem at all?They should be rendering the same across the different versions.

Damn SDC wont let me update WB,even if it would and this is the "new" way,I would have to go back and "fix " my other skins and then they wouldnt work right for anyone who hadnt or couldnt update. >

I wonder how you contact SD about this?They havnt responded to any of my emails about a problem I've been having for over a month now.
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