i agree with frogboy... but i can well relate to Grfx Guru's comments. i my self use all of macromedia MX, and not that long ago purchased a legit copy... but with all the new releases i am certainly tempted to download a trial version and crck it, there is no insentive to keep paying thousands of dollars for software which just constantly becomes out of date... fair enough if they charged you a lot lesser cost to by a software update... but you they are running an oligopoly and making us purchase a whole new software packages... then they complain about piracey... they are bringing it on themseleves